verge; was tree lawns; was Re: Off and on

[Dan Goncharoff]

Unless it's a woman...
DanG



On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> At 9/22/2011 05:51 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
>>I recall "verge" used somewhere I lived, but that is not necessarily helpful
>>DanG
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> And of course someone who mows the tree-lawn is a verger.
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>>On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Jonathan Lighter
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>> > I never heard a term for it in NYC. In fact, I'd still call it "you know,
>> > that grassy area between the sidewalk and the curb?"
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>> > JL
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>> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Dan Goodman <dsgood at iphouse.com> wrote:
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>> >> On 09/22/2011 10:59 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>> >> > Ohio, with its unique "devil's strip," went for Obama.
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>> >> > Alert the Tea Party.
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>> >> > JL
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>> >> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Laurence Horn<laurence.horn at yale.edu
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>> >> >> On Sep 22, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
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>> >> >>> At 9/22/2011 01:33 AM, Paul Johnston wrote:
>> >> >>>> ... As I say, in New Jersey, there was no term, though my
>> >> >>>> neighborhood had sidewalks, and so, there was a tree
>> >> lawn/parkway/berm.
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>> >> >>> Nor do I, grown in NYC and living in New England, have a term.
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>> >> >> Right; I have a similar background and was disconcerted to
>> see that Bert
>> >> >> Vaux's otherwise very useful survey page doesn't have an entry for *my*
>> >> >> favored term, i.e. "the strip of grass between the sidewalk and the
>> >> curb".
>> >> >>   I will concede that "tree lawn", "berm", et al. are a bit more
>> >> concise.
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>> >> >> LH, recalling an abortive attempt to popularize the label "dog-turd
>> >> strip"
>> >> >> in the old pre-pooper-scooper era
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>> >> In the Twin Cities area, the term is "boulevard."  My amateur guess:
>> >> originally "boulevard strip."
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>> >> To the best of my knowledge, New York City has no term.
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>> >> Berm:  For parts of my childhood, I lived on the Berme Road in Ulster
>> >> County, NY.  It ran near the route of the Delaware and Hudson Canal.
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