hobo synonymous with panhandler or beggar

[Dan Goncharoff]

I don't understand the conversation.

Is a hobo only a hobo when he is traveling? If he arrives somewhere and
does some work, is he no longer a hobo? What is he then? A bum? A homeless
person?

Look at the main character in "Hobo with a Shotgun". He is a hobo riding
the rails, then he stops and gets odd jobs. I think he was a hobo while he
was traveling and still a hobo while he got off the train.

DanG


On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Baker, John <JBAKER at stradley.com> wrote:

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>        "Migrant worker" and "hobo" have very different associations in my
> mind.  I think of "migrant workers" as people who travel seasonally for
> agricultural work.  They may have families and vehicles.  They are often,
> but not always, immigrants.  I think of "hoboes" as men (or older boys) who
> travel from place to place, perhaps hopping freight trains or hitch-hiking,
> and support themselves by whatever work is available (not necessarily
> agricultural work) or by handouts.  Hoboes do not have vehicles or families
> (at least not families who travel with them), but there is a large element
> of choice in their lifestyle, and they may subsequently settle down and
> become respectable.  This usage is essentially historical; hoboes were on
> their way out when "King of the Road" was written in 1964.
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> John Baker
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> As I leraned it, the hobo was the migratory worker, the tramp the migratory
> nonworker.
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> BTW, "migrant worker" has long been preferred.  Birds are migratory, so
> "migratory" must show disrespect.  (Birds can also be "migrants," but
> perhaps the public is less conscious of that.)
> OED has "migratory laborer" from 1911, "migrant worker" amusingly only from
> 1999.
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> JL
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