Co ördinated

[Laurence Horn]

On Apr 29, 2012, at 5:13 AM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:

> My take is that the use of special symbols has killed phonetics in USA.  No one teaches phonetics in k-12 in a way that involves "writing" phonetically.  And there's no need for this complication if a simple English based phonetics like truespel phonetics is used.  That's why truespel phonetics was created.  It's the way to go for teaching phonetics.  It's getting some traction in ESL.
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> At thefreedictionary.com I hear "diearesis" pronounced ~die'urreesis (die-uh-REE-sis) as the US version.  The UK version and the speaker icon version are ~die"airisis (die-AIR-ih-sis)  I would have said the USA version myself.
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Curious.  For di(a)eresis I've always heard, and said, die-EHR-uh-sis (rhyming with "terraces") myself, and that's the only version listed in AHD.  "di-uh-REE-sis", rhyming with "catachresis" (Greek for 'eggcorn', sorta), sounds too much like a medical condition to me ("Sorry I can't make it to your opening, I've contracted a bad case of diarEEsis").

LH

P.S.  I don't think phonetics in USA is in trouble; I hear it around me all the time.
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>> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 15:31:10 -0400
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>> Subject: Re: Coördinated
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>> Dan Goncharoff wrote:
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>>> I found it funny that, in a recent issue of the New Yorker, they used the
>>> word "coördinated", with the umlaut on the second letter "o", several times.
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>>> The first two usages were in an article on Karl May, who wrote fiction
>>> about the American West. I thought this was some kind of editorial joke
>>> until I found the word again in an article on Camus.
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>> The diaeresis has long been part of New Yorker style, and they're sticking to
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>> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/04/the-curse-of-the-diaeresis.html
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>> --bgz
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