origin of dese dem dose in NYCE

Michael Newman michael.newman at QC.CUNY.EDU
Tue Feb 14 07:53:13 UTC 2012


I've never heard the esh pronunciation. I do hear the /sk/ pronunciation, which happens with a certain regularity since I live a few blocks away. Curiously, while the Van Wyck family is annoyed by the typical NYC pronunciation, the Schermerhorns seem much more relaxed.

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2001/06/11/010611ta_TALK_DEPT_OF_ONCE

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.schermerhorn/283/mb.ashx




HIstory of the family:

http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/families/schermerhorn/chronicles/intro.html





Michael Newman
Associate Professor of Linguistics
Queens College/CUNY
michael.newman at qc.cuny.edu



On Feb 14, 2012, at 3:30 AM, Dan Nussbaum wrote:

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