origin of dese dem dose in NYCE

[Jonathan Lighter]

"Shermerhorn" is the only pronunciation I ever noticed, but I'll admit
I heard the street/station mentioned very rarely.

JL

On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Michael Newman
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> I've never heard the esh pronunciation. I do hear the /sk/ pronunciation, which happens with a certain regularity since I live a few blocks away. Curiously, while the Van Wyck family is annoyed by the typical NYC pronunciation, the Schermerhorns seem much more relaxed.
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> http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2001/06/11/010611ta_TALK_DEPT_OF_ONCE
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> http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.schermerhorn/283/mb.ashx
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> http://www.schenectadyhistory.org/families/schermerhorn/chronicles/intro.html
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> On Feb 14, 2012, at 3:30 AM, Dan Nussbaum wrote:
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>> When I went to medical school in the Bronx from 1963 until 1970, the people=
>> from Brooklyn pronounced=20
>> the train station as Shermerhorn.
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>> Dan Nussbaum
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