nyaa nyaa/ naa naa

[Tom Zurinskas]

While spelling reform would be a good thing, I'm not doing that.  All I'm doing is phonetic reform, to put an end to phonetic illiteracy.

Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk


 
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> In North Carolina "all-y" (pronounced as Larry says he says it) rhymes with "oily"--although of course the word that is spelled ALL would be pronounced [ao]. Give it up, Tom: spelling reform will not change social and regional variation not even if accompanied by dire warnings of genital self-mutilation.
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> On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> > so all-y, which kinda makes sense, became ollie, which doesn't. Early awe-dropping. Watch out that Paulie doesn't become Polly.
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> > Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
> > See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk
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> >> And come to think of it, I can't quite recall if we used "All-y all-y in free" as I claimed earlier or "Ollie ollie in free" as I just claimed below. They wouldn't have been homophonous for us--"Ollie" with an /a/ (really a script a) rhyming with "collie" and otherwise known as the nose-biting dragon companion of Kukla and Fran, vs. "all-y" with an /O/ rhyming with no actual word, although I could imagine saying "Yesterday it felt like a real summer day, but today it's kind of fall-y", rhyming with "all-y". Oh, I have it: all-y as in Paulie.
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> >> LH
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> >> On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Paul Johnston wrote:
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> >>> Come to think of it, "ollie ollie in free" was used in Morristown, NJ in the '60s.
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> >>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
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> >>>> On Feb 14, 2012, at 8:09 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
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> >>>>> At 2/14/2012 12:22 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
> >>>>>> My personal recollection of text and pronunciation is "ollie ollie in
> >>>>>> free"
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> >>>>> I have asked two friends for their recollections. The three of us
> >>>>> all recall the phrase and pronunciation as above.
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> >>>>> One, a woman now in her eighties, grew up in Connecticut and the
> >>>>> Worcester, Mass. area.
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> >>>>> The second, male, was a lad in NYC in the mid-940s.
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> >>>> Aha! I'm not alone, then. (Well, I was a lad in NYC 5-10 years after that. Give or take a millennium.)
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> >>>> LH
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> >>>>> The third, female, grew up in Cambridge, Mass. in the mid-1950s.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Joel
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