avenoo

[Michael Newman]

As long as you tense your first vowel, it's all cool. I've heard both versions of the last vowel all my life.
Michael Newman
Associate Professor of Linguistics
Queens College/CUNY
michael.newman at qc.cuny.edu



On Feb 28, 2012, at 6:45 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:

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> At 2/28/2012 12:10 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>> Not especially. It's pretty common everywhere in NYC, but mainly among
>> blue-collar types (in my experience).
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>> Of course if you're tawkin' book-an'-movie stereotypes, I'd say yes. And
>> Brooklyn even more so.
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> Ah yes -- you've just reconnected some tired brain cells to "Flatbush
> Avenoo".  Although I didn't talk much to Brooklynites -- and
> certainly not to blue-collar types! -- in my youth, I did watch
> stereotypical movies.
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> Joel
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>> JL
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>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>>> Do Larry or Jon associate "a-ve-noo" with the Lower East Side (Dead
>>> End Kids, etc.)?  I have a tendency in that direction.
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>>> Joel
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>>> At 2/28/2012 11:52 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>>>> "Aven-yoo." Yup.
>>>>
>>>> JL
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>>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>>>>> I'm with Larry in all respects, including "aven-yoo".  Also native
>>>>> NYC, and I haven't noticed any different in Bahston.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joel
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>>>>> At 2/28/2012 12:13 AM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Funny how we make such different choices, if choices they are, as we
>>>>>> glide through life, or don't.  It's always been "er-ju-dite" for me
>>>>>> (< NYC), but I'm glideless in "garrulous" (awful name for a movie),
>>>>>> as well as in "corrugate". Contra Pedro V, though, I do have a glide
>>>>>> in "avenue", whether numbered (5th), lettered (C), or named (of the
>>>>>> Americas).  None even imaginable in "rude" or "ruse", though--and
>>>>>> I'm sure I'd boggle if I heard anyone else put a glide in those, at
>>>>>> least on this side of the pond.  I've heard plenty of glides in
>>>>>> "Tuesday", "news", and such, but I don't go in for them there myself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LH, native Noo Yorker (no, not Noo Yawka)
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