Barney Rubble. ---was: dime

[Wilson Gray]

As Smart might have asked,

"Well, would you accept Cockney-_style_ rhyming slang?"

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-Wilson
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All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint
to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
-Mark Twain


On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Is it still Cockney rhyming slang if proper cockneys never said it?
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> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:25 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at mst.edu>wrot=
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>> But this *is* Cockney(-style) rhyming slang. Â Very much so. Â There's the
>> rhyme, the shortening ("Barney" from "Barney Rubble," just like "butcher'=
> s"
>> from "butcher's hook" =3D a look, e.g. "Take a butcher's at this."
>> And occasionally Cockney rhyming slang has a semantic justification too,
>> e.g. "apples and pears" (stairs),
>> with the imagery of a fruit stand in which the fruit is arranged in a
>> graded fashion, like stairs.
>>
>> Gerald Cohen
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>> Message from Wilson Gray, Â Thu 1/5/2012 8:22 PM:
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>> This isn't Cockney(-style?) rhyming slang, then?
>>
>> --
>> -Wilson
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>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint
>> to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>> -Mark Twain
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>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard <gcohen at mst.edu>
>> wrote:
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>> > Poster: =C2 Â =C2 Â =C2 Â "Cohen, Gerald Leonard" <gcohen at MST.EDU>
>> > Subject: =C2 Â =C2 Â =C2 Barney Rubble. ---was: dime
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>> > But "Barney Rubble" does seem to make sense. =C2 He's the character in =
> the
>> Flinststones cartoons, and from the little I remember of them, Barney was
>> always getting into trouble. =C2 Or do I remember it wrong?
>> > Gerald Cohen
>> >
>> > Original message from Victor Steinbok, Thu 1/5/2012 12:47 AM:
>> > <snip>
>> > To me, this makes about as much sense as the following exchange in, I
>> > believe, Oceans Eleven:
>> > "You're in Barney."
>> > "Say what?"
>> > "Barney--Barney Rubble... You're in trouble. Get it?"
>> > "No."
>> >
>> > Or something like that...
>> >
>> > This is no longer a singular case of "in Barney"
>> >
>> > http://goo.gl/F8rWg
>> >>
>> >> =C2 Â =C2 Â <name> pulls a bone shard out of the organ grinder and stabs=
> Â him
>> >> =C2 Â =C2 Â for X damage, shouting "Stick that up yer Khyber, ya chav!".
>> >> =C2 Â =C2 Â <name> says "You're in Barney now!" and scrapes all the grea=
> se off
>> >> =C2 Â =C2 Â the bottom of his pie oven, then smears it on her for X dama=
> ge.
>> >>
>> >
>> > http://goo.gl/wMtaq
>> >> Jabba you're in Barney! Rubble! Trouble!!! (different movie reference!=
> )
>> >
>> > http://goo.gl/YFOVy
>> >> All of you familiar with the original Getaway will be even more
>> >> impressed with the sequel. All of you who did not enjoy the original,
>> >> well, you're in Barney.
>> >> ...Barney Rubble. Trouble! Fuckit.
>> >
>> > http://goo.gl/vslbu
>> >> Lesson Learned: If you're in "barney," you're in trouble.
>> >
>> > This hidden rhyming euphemism still makes no sense to me. But I hear
>> > it's popular in London (at least two separate sources suggest this!).
>> >
>> > VS-)
>> >
>> >
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