"au jus" (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Mullins, Bill AMRDEC]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

And one who spits mucus would be a loogier?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On
Behalf Of
> Laurence Horn
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 8:33 AM
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> Subject: Re: "au jus" (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> ---------------------- Information from the mail header
----------------------
> -
> Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Poster:       Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
> Subject:      Re: "au jus" (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
> -
>
> On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:57 AM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>
> > In truespel as heard by clicking the speaker icon at
thefreedictionary.com
> "luge" is ~luezh and "luger" is ~lueger
>
> Um, I believe the latter is for the word referring to the gun of that
name,
> not to someone who luges.
>
> LH
> >
> > Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
> > See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk
> >
> >
> >>
> >> ---------------------- Information from the mail header
-------------------
> ----
> >> Sender: American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >> Poster: Victor Steinbok <aardvark66 at GMAIL.COM>
> >> Subject: Re: "au jus" (UNCLASSIFIED)
> >>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
> ----
> >>
> >> How would you spell "luge" and "luger", Tom?
> >>
> >> VS-)
> >>
> >> PS: Can we add casual and exposure to the list, along with seizure,
> >> occasion/occasional, lesion, collision, precision, elision,
erosion,
> >> engine? All but "casual" and "elision" had migrated from French
> >> complete with the [Z]. On the other hand, I was surprised to find
the
> >> OED list fissure and fission with [S] rather than [Z], thus making
> >> fissure homonymous with fisher. From physicists--and physics
> >> students--I've heard it, most of my life, as [Z]. But I checked
with a
> >> couple of "informants" and they do differentiate between fissure
and
> >> fisher, although it involves un-English lengthening of the [S]. Are
> >> there any other English words (not necessarily originating in
English in
> >> some form) that involve using [SS] in the middle? Another one that
I
> >> always hear more vocalized than dictionaries list it is torsion.
> >>
> >> Another anomaly is cringe--OED lists both [Z] and [dZ] variants for
> >> British, but only [dZ] for US. Hinge, Fringe, lunge, binge, singe
and
> >> linge all have /only/ [dZ] listed. Range is like cringe, but grange
and
> >> derange(d/ment) are like the rest. I'll let you figure out which
way
> >> mange/mangy fall (from French!--but so is derangement).
> >>
> >> Another odd cluster: artesian, Malaysian, Malthusian and Cartesian,
> >> although the last three differ between US and UK (and even within
US and
> >> UK). Transient is listed in OED with [s], [z], [S] and [Z], not to
> >> mention vowel variations. The point is not to find all the
instances
> >> (oh, look! I missed "illusion"!), but to dismiss the idea that the
sound
> >> is particularly unusual. And who is to say that "Anglo-Norman" is
not
> >> "English"?
> >>
> >> On 1/25/2012 11:46 PM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
> >>> Indeed. The letter "s" is by far the most used letter in English
to spell
> the ~zh sound as in "measure" ~mezher. But the letter "s" is 60 times
more
> likely to spell another sound, ~s. See truespel book 4.
> >>>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

------------------------------------------------------------
The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org