The agony of defeat in NYC

[Laurence Horn]

On Jul 2, 2012, at 10:58 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:

> Not to mention the NJ Devils and Nets?
> DanG

Funny, the Devils are often considered a non-NY team (unlike the other franchises based in Jersey), maybe because they were never based in NY.  And they've been quite good, all things considered.  The Nets, on the other hand, birthed on Long Island before moving to Jersey, have usually been treated as a NY team--albeit definitely No. 2, and usually but not always playing that way, if you'll pardon the expression.  And now that they're the Brooklyn Nets, they're definitely local.  But still No. 2.

LH
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> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:
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>> On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
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>>> At 7/2/2012 01:33 PM, Shapiro, Fred wrote:
>>>> Great finds by Barry and Garson!  This has long been one of my
>>>> favorite quotes. although for a Mets-Jets-Knicks-Islanders fan like
>>>> myself, it is not at all clear that the sports pages are really
>>>> records of human triumph and success.
>>>
>>> Some of we expatriates are wiser -- we remember the Yankees and the
>>> (football) Giants.  Or even the Dodgers and the (baseball) Giants.
>>>
>>> Joel
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>> Well, if you want to get technical, the Islanders were very successful (if
>> over a limited arc) long after the Dodgers and Giants pulled up their
>> stakes, although it has been a long time since '83 or whenever their
>> dynasty ended.
>>
>> LH
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