"Here's you a dog"

Wilson Gray hwgray at GMAIL.COM
Tue Mar 6 21:06:48 UTC 2012


On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> Subject: Â  Â  Â "Here's you a dog"
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> Ben Zimmer, knowing my interest in collecting weird personal dative =
> related phenomena*, sent me a link to this interesting item in a =
> blogpost on the Arrant Pedantry blog:
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> http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2012/02/21/heres-you-a-benefactive-dative/
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> which in turn links to this "Here's you a dog" blogpost (which of course =
> now contains a "pingback"--a nice lexical item itself, by the way--to =
> Arrant Pedantry:
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> http://lisabonnice.wordpress.com/heres-you-a-blog/
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> The two blogs mention Kentucky and Utah as loci for this "Here's you a =
> construction" construction. Â This isn't a personal dative as such, since =
> the benefactive pronoun isn't coreferential with the subject. Â In fact, =
> it looks more like an ordinary indirect object in a frame that for =
> mainstream speakers doesn't allow one, but it's also reminiscent of=20
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> (i) benefactive datives (or malefactive/adversative ones), often limited =
> to pronouns, that aren't coreferential with the subject but mark =
> "affectees", found in various other languages, including most Romance =
> and Germanic ones (while some languages, including Hebrew, have both =
> coreferential and non-coreferential varieties
>
> (ii) adversative prepositional phrases like "It rained on me", "My =
> dog/computer/grandmother (up 'n') died on me" and the adversative =
> passives like "I was rained on"
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> (iii) benefactive indirect objects subcategorized for by some verbs, as =
> in "She built him a new house", "Do me a favor", paraphrasable like (I =
> assume) "Here's you a dog" by a "for"-initial PP.
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> My questions: Â Does anyone know of anything written about this =
> construction? Â And does anyone know anything about it? Â (its =
> geographical range, its syntactic contexts, its formal possibilities, =
> its meaning nuances=85) Â  It may be in DARE, the OED, or other sources, =
> but I'm not sure where to look. Â Is it covered in LAGS?
>
> LH =20
>
> *Oops, modifier(-)hyphen(-)paralysis strikes again: Â is it =
> personal-dative related phenomena? personal dative-related phenomena? =
> PD-related phenomena?=
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Connection with BE _here go you a…_? In a theoretical sense, I mean,
not in the sense that one might be derived from the other, or
whatever.

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-Wilson
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