"Here's you a dog"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Tue Mar 6 21:24:40 UTC 2012


>BTW, anybody else notice the increasingly common pronunciation of
_bro_ as "bra"?

Haven't noticed it, but that's how the Beatles said it in "Ob-La-Di,
Ob-La-Da."

Life goes on, bra!


JL
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
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> > Ben Zimmer, knowing my interest in collecting weird personal dative =
> > related phenomena*, sent me a link to this interesting item in a =
> > blogpost on the Arrant Pedantry blog:
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> > http://www.arrantpedantry.com/2012/02/21/heres-you-a-benefactive-dative/
> >
> > which in turn links to this "Here's you a dog" blogpost (which of course
> =
> > now contains a "pingback"--a nice lexical item itself, by the way--to =
> > Arrant Pedantry:
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> > http://lisabonnice.wordpress.com/heres-you-a-blog/
> >
> > The two blogs mention Kentucky and Utah as loci for this "Here's you a =
> > construction" construction. Â This isn't a personal dative as such,
> since =
> > the benefactive pronoun isn't coreferential with the subject. Â In fact,
> =
> > it looks more like an ordinary indirect object in a frame that for =
> > mainstream speakers doesn't allow one, but it's also reminiscent of=20
> >
> > (i) benefactive datives (or malefactive/adversative ones), often limited
> =
> > to pronouns, that aren't coreferential with the subject but mark =
> > "affectees", found in various other languages, including most Romance =
> > and Germanic ones (while some languages, including Hebrew, have both =
> > coreferential and non-coreferential varieties
> >
> > (ii) adversative prepositional phrases like "It rained on me", "My =
> > dog/computer/grandmother (up 'n') died on me" and the adversative =
> > passives like "I was rained on"
> >
> > (iii) benefactive indirect objects subcategorized for by some verbs, as =
> > in "She built him a new house", "Do me a favor", paraphrasable like (I =
> > assume) "Here's you a dog" by a "for"-initial PP.
> >
> > My questions: Â Does anyone know of anything written about this =
> > construction? Â And does anyone know anything about it? Â (its =
> > geographical range, its syntactic contexts, its formal possibilities, =
> > its meaning nuances=85) Â  It may be in DARE, the OED, or other sources,
> =
> > but I'm not sure where to look. Â Is it covered in LAGS?
> >
> > LH =20
> >
> > *Oops, modifier(-)hyphen(-)paralysis strikes again: Â is it =
> > personal-dative related phenomena? personal dative-related phenomena? =
> > PD-related phenomena?=
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> Connection with BE _here go you a…_? In a theoretical sense, I mean,
> not in the sense that one might be derived from the other, or
> whatever.
>
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> 713 CLICK- THA NEW SOUTH MOVEMENT PLAYAMUSIC.COM AND _HERE GO YOU A
> PICTURE_ BRO
>
> BTW, anybody else notice the increasingly common pronunciation of
> _bro_ as "bra"?
> --
> -Wilson
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> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint
> to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> -Mark Twain
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