hero etymology

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Sun Mar 18 23:02:05 UTC 2012


Defonte's of Brooklyn opened up a new shop in Manhattan. They call their
sandwiches "heros".

http://www.defontesofbrooklyn.com/?page=menu

DanG


On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 5:16 PM, <sclements at neo.rr.com> wrote:

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> "Hero" for the "submarine/etc" sandwich hasn't been in vogue for more than
> 25 years.  If I"m wrong, then cite it.
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> If you want a Greek/pita sandwich(faux lamb), then say "YEAR-roe."
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> Sam Clements
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> ---- Larry Sheldon <LarrySheldon at COX.NET> wrote:
> > On 3/18/2012 3:39 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
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> > > Interestingly (to me, at least), the earlier definitions culled by
> > > Barry seem to involve an either-or, but by the time I began buying
> > > and consuming them in the mid 1950s, they were a both- (or rather
> > > all-) and: not salami *or* prosciutto *or* other ham or cheese or
> > > both, but always all of the above, plus chopped onions and peppers,
> > > with a layer of olive oil, and something that was probably sprinkled
> > > oregano and maybe other herbs.  Mmmm.  (I don't recall tuna being an
> > > option--but maybe I just never asked.  And yes, we always assumed--in
> > > both NYC and central Maine (lake district), where the term was also
> > > used--that the name referred to anyone (e.g. us) who could eat the
> > > whole thing at a single sitting.
> >
> > Sounds like what we called "submarine sandwiches" farther down the
> > Atlantic Coast.
> >
> > And "subs" just about every place else I've been (Antedating the Subway
> > chain by a lot).
> >
> > The one that worries me in areas where "hero" is the nom du jour, what
> > do I ask for if I want the Grecian delicacy?
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