Puritan euphemisms
Baker, John
JBAKER at STRADLEY.COM
Wed Oct 24 17:29:05 UTC 2012
The Puritans themselves, on either side of the pond, were not much for writing plays, especially plays meant to depict everyday life, so that probably isn't going to be a useful guide to their colloquial speech. I guess they could have been characters in plays written by non-Puritans, but I don't know of any examples and doubt if that would be a reliable guide to their speech anyway.
John Baker
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I wasn't thinking of American literature as distinct from British literature in earlier times--though, of course, American speech had already begun to differentiate itself. But any verbal behavior specifically identifiable as "puritan" would perhaps have been similar on both sides of the pond.
--Charlie
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But when did Americans start writing plays? If before about 1830, I don't think it was vastly before.
John Baker
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Though printed versions of plays often do preserve somebody's (artistic) impression of colloquial speech.
--Charlie
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> I haven't studied colloquial, secular writing, but I suspect there wasn't
much before -- when? the 3rd quarter of the 18th century?
My impression is that colloquial writing was very rare in America before ca
1830. It was given a boost by an outbreak of relatively informal, often
humorous writing in papers like The Spirit of the Times__.
What this seems to mean is that everyday conversation in the 18th C. must
have sounded far more "modern" in certain ways [note weaseling] than the
written record might suggest
(Of course that's always the case.)
JL
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