"gunfight" and "exchange of gunfire"

[Joel S. Berson]

At 4/23/2013 12:43 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>The same SWAT officer has commented on the "gunshot wound" to the suspect's
>throat that may indicate an exciting though unsuccessful suicide attempt.

Yes I heard that too, but don't remember if it was attributed to
someone.  One report was that a rifle was found in the boat.  If that
was the weapon "Joker" used in a suicide attempt, I can understand
why it wasn't successful.

Joel


>The wound - in the neck - looked to this officer like a deep cut. He thinks
>it might have been from flying "shrapnel" from one of the explosives Joker
>and/or his brother had employed the previous evening.
>
>JL
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>On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Additionally, there were "ear-witnesses" who claimed to hear gunshots both
> > in the morning before Dzhokhor was found and in the evening when he was
> > being approached.
> >
> > It seems to me that, unless someone was actually there, one should be
> > skeptical of anyone claiming to 'know' what has happened.
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> > DanG
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> > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > > At 4/23/2013 07:41 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > > > > said they were being fired at.
> > > >
> > > >Like the National Guard at Kent State?
> > > >
> > > >A member of the SWAT team that arrested him told CNN this morning that
> > > they
> > > >approached the boat with caution when he surrendered because "we thought
> > > he
> > > >might have a weapon."
> > >
> > > Jon, you know better than this.  They thought he might have a weapon
> > > before they approached him.  That is not evidence -- on either side
> > > -- about whether he actually did have a gun.
> > >
> > >
> > > >There may have been a gun. But people are claiming there was a gunfight
> > > >when, so far, nobody's reported a gun.
> > >
> > > Both Victor and I have said there are "reports" he had a gun.  What
> > > we perhaps lack (although surely others have, or can refute) is
> > > reliable confirmation.
> > >
> > > Joel
> > >
> > >
> > > >Even if there *was* a gun, so far there isn't any, if you catch my
> > drift.
> > > >"Gunfight," etc., were the wrong words.
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