Team names (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Jonathan Lighter]

> As a "wide mouth special," the jar is particularly notable, of its kind,
as "tall and of a port in air." And its glass, compared to that of other
fruit jars, is especially "gray and bare."

Sounds like somebody's opinion.

That kind of bourgeois subjectivism can have no place in current literary
studies.

JL

On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:58 PM, Baker, John <JBAKER at stradley.com> wrote:

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>         According to the collected discussions of Anecdote of the Jar at
> http://www.english.illinois.edu/maps/poets/s_z/stevens/jar.htm, Roy
> Harvey Pearce wrote, "I think it worth noting that Stevens as he wrote the
> poem must have had in mind a specific fruit jar, the "Dominion Wide Mouth
> Special."... Although manufactured in Canada, the jar has been widely
> distributed in the United States from 1913 to the present ... As a "wide
> mouth special," the jar is particularly notable, of its kind, as "tall and
> of a port in air." And its glass, compared to that of other fruit jars, is
> especially "gray and bare." Whether in Tennessee in 1918 fruit jars were
> used as containers for "moonshine," I have not been able to establish
> definitively. Surely, granting Stevens' penchant for "moon" and "shine,"
> the matter is worth investigating."
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>         So it seems that the theory that the jar holds moonshine is not
> one to be ruled out.  My argument against moonshine, however, is the final
> line in the poem, which describes the jar as "Like nothing else in
> Tennessee."
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> John Baker
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> Maybe the same jar.
>
> Therefore, unquestionably the same jar.
>
> Literary interpretations are no longer "good" or "bad," they're just...aw,
> you know.
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> JL
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> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC <
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> > I was hoping it was the lyrics to "Rocky Top" (Univ of Tennessee fight
> > song):
> >
> > "Corn won't grow at all on Rocky Top,
> > Dirt's too rocky by far.
> > That's why all the folks on Rocky Top,
> > get their corn from a jar."
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> > > Check out Wallace Stevens' poem, "Anecdote of the Jar."
> > >
> > > Fred Shapiro
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> > > > In reference to the Baltimore Ravens--named for Poe's poem--Dennis
> > > > Baron posted these possible "literary" names on his Facebook page:
> > > > "St. Louis Prufrocks? The Camden Leaves? Patterson Wheelbarrows?
> > > > Tennessee Jars? The Amherst Slants of Light?"
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