Heard: "loci" with [k]

[Herb Stahlke]

Post-Reformation Protestant and especially Lutheran theologians.  Part of
our readings in Latin were 16th and 17th c. Lutheran writers.  Their
general approach was heavily Scholastic, which is what Spener and other
Pietists reacted strongly against.  Probably the best example of this was
Johann Gerhardt's Loci Communes Theologici (1610-1622).  Following the
German tradition of Church Latin pronunciation, <c> before a front vowel is
pronounced /ts/.

Herb


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:

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> At 2/22/2013 10:50 AM, Herb Stahlke wrote:
> >In the rather church influenced Lutheran academy I attended in Milwaukee,
> >it was [lotsi].
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> Just which ancient philosophy were you and your Lutheran academy
> under the influence of?
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> Joel
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> >Herb
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> >On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > > At 2/22/2013 06:59 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > > >You mean it isn't homonymous with "Loki"?
> > >
> > > Wilson, you've been tricked.
> > >
> > >
> > > >That's how I've always said it.
> > >
> > > Me too.  Or did I say "locuses"?
> > >
> > >
> > > >And I got an A in geometry. Eventually.
> > >
> > > And I heard it in math class.  Perhaps that's why I got an A quickly.
> > >
> > > But has anyone looked at the OED's pronunciation of "locus" and
> > > "loci"?  Or why it does not tell us how to pronounce "foci"?  (Which
> > > I say with [s].  Perhaps because [k] would bring it too close to the
> > > F-word.)  Or infer how one would pronounce, let alone spell, the
> > > plural of "hocus"?
> > >
> > > Joel
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> > >
> > > >JL
> > > >
> > > >On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Laurence Horn <
> laurence.horn at yale.edu
> > > >wrote:
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> > > > > Subject:      Re: Heard: "loci" with [k], not [s]; cf. "fungi" with
> > > [Ng],
> > > > > not
> > > > >               [nDZ] [NT]
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> > > > > On Feb 21, 2013, at 11:17 PM, Scott wrote:
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> > > > > > Not two words one usually hears in conversation; however, it
> seems to
> > > > > > me that here in Montana the pronunciations you indicate are
> usual. In
> > > > > > fact, ISTR a lame joke: "He always orders his pizza with
> mushrooms;
> > > > > > he's a real fun guy!"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott Swanson
> > > > > >
> > > > > And if those unsoftened velars were good enough for [iulius kaisar]
> > > > > they're good enough for me!  (OK, I admit I do soften those velars
> > > myself,
> > > > > but I would fight to the death your right to retroactively harden
> > > them.)
> > > > >
> > > > > LH
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