Earliest Known Occurrence of the Term "Hot Dog" Pushed Back to, 1886, (Corrected Citation)

[Amy West]

On 1/23/13 1:05 AM, Automatic digest processor wrote:
> Date:    Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:17:16 -0500
> From:    Jonathan Lighter<wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject: Re: Earliest Known Occurrence of the Term "Hot Dog" Pushed Back to
>           1886, (Corrected Citation)
>
> Good point, Amy.  And  no rolls are mentioned. Were the dogs sold wrapped
> in waxed paper?
>
> JL
If you review the full cit in Fred's post (I trimmed it to keep just the
material relevant to my query), you'll see that the basket is for rye
bread and that the hot dogs are served with horseradish and between two
pieces of bread.

---Amy West
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> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Amy West<medievalist at w-sts.com>  wrote:
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>> >               to 1886,        (Corrected Citation)
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>> >On 1/22/13 12:03 AM, Automatic digest processor wrote:
>>> > >Date:    Mon, 21 Jan 2013 14:17:53 +0000
>>> > >From:    "Shapiro, Fred"<fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU>
>>> > >Subject: Earliest Known Occurrence of the Term "Hot Dog" Pushed Back to
>> >1886
>>> > >           (Corrected Citation)
>>> > >
>>> > >The Tennessee provenance of the term "hot dog" now seems stronger, as I
>> >have found an 1886 citation from that state:
>>> > >
>>> > >hot dog (OED 1892)
>>> > >
>>> > >1886_Nashville Tennessean_  14 Nov. 9/2 (ProQuest Historical Newspapers)
>>> > >
>>> > >"Hot stuff," "hot pup," "hot dog," sings out the fiend who carries in
>> >one hand a tin cooking arrangement, and on the other arm a basket.
>> ><snip>
>>> > >    Wiener means little and generally speaking, the purchaser gets a
>> >little the wurst of it.  (No diagram of this joke.)  Wurst means, in
>> >English, sausage; so that when one of these peddlers says wiener wurst to
>> >you he means do you want a little sausage.  The tin vessel which he carries
>> >is divided into two compartments.  The upper is filled with water, in which
>> >are about a thousand, more or less, skin sausages.  In the lower apartment
>> >is the alcohol stove that keeps the sausages hot.
>>> > >
>> >Here's what intrigues me: the equivalence of "wiener" with little. Are
>> >they falsely analogizing by/playing on "wee"? They get "wurst" right, so
>> >something's going on with "wiener." And the mention of "a thousand" may
>> >be exaggeration, but still indicates a small size. So, I'm inferring
>> >that in this appearance, they're very much like what we still call
>> >"Vienna sausages".
>> >
>> >---Amy West

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