FW: Re: "Hot Dog" in 1884 -- message from Barry Popik

[Joel S. Berson]

Barry commented:
>"the joke is that it contains dog. It does not appear to have been
>called a "hot dog" at this time, but it's this close to that."
and that "hot dog" is not in quotes.

I wonder whether, then, one should read "dispensing hot dog on the
street corner" as "dispensing hot [pause] dog" rather than
"dispensing hot-dog[s]".  In which case, referring to Ben's comment,
it's the "dog" that's uncountable, not the "hot-dog"?

Joel

At 6/23/2013 06:21 PM, Cohen, Gerald Leonard wrote:
>Barry Popik sent the message below to several ads-l members, and I
>now forward it to the entire listserv.
>
>Gerald Cohen
>
>From: Barry Popik [bapopik at aol.com]
>Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 4:42 PM
>Subject: "Hot Dog" in 1884
>
> >>>>>At least, I think this is earlier than Fred's recent finds.
>Again, using my new subscription to Genealogy Bank.
>_Evansville Courier and Press_ (Evansville IN) 14 September 1884 p.2
>col.4
>"Even the innocent "wienerworst" man will be barred from dispensing
>"hot dog" on the street corner."
>Sam Clements<<<<<
>...
>This is a great find! GenealogyBank has been adding this Evansville
>publication in the past year; I looked for "hot dog" somewhat recently
>and didn't see this.
>...
>A few things:
>...
>. Although the page says "Evansville Courier and Press," the actual
>publication at this time says "The Evansville Daily Courier."
>GenealogyBank will do this, having an 1800s citation from the "New York
>Herald" appear as the "Herald Tribune" -- the publication's last name.
>. It appears to be column 5, not column 4.
>. "Hot dog" is not in quotes.
>...
>The last item is a bit important. The food item is clearly a
>"wienerworst" and the joke is that it contains dog. It does not appear
>to have been called a "hot dog" at this time, but it's this close to
>that.
>...
>The "OK" item, I believe, I found by intense microfilm searching way
>back in 1992.
>...
>Barry Popik
>
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