Antedating of "Guard" (Basketball) (UNCLASSIFIED)

Shapiro, Fred fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU
Tue May 14 19:56:41 UTC 2013


The Triangle was a monthly, so the issue with the first mention of basketball is usually dated "January 1892."  Bill is right that the issue date is actually "January 15, 1892."

Note that in OED citation style "Triangle Jan. 7" does not mean January 7th, it means page 7 of the January issue, and this is the style I was using.

Fred Shapiro



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I did a number of similar sports antedatings here:
http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0501A&L=ADS-L&P=R5490&
I=-3&d=No+Match%3BMatch%3BMatches

(which, BTW, never seemed to have gotten to the OED files) in which I
took this sense of guard from 1905 to 1897.

Fred, is this:
http://cdm16122.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/p15370c
oll3/id/485/rec/10 (specifically, the 6th page of this PDF document)
your source?

I ask because _Triangle_ seems to be more of a magazine than a
newspaper, and the date is Jan 15 rather than Jan 7.

The OED definition for "dribble" (v) seems to only include moving a ball
by the feet, and not by the hands is as done in basketball.

This document:
http://cdm16122.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/compoundobject/collection/p15370c
oll2/id/223/rec/102
takes the basketball type of dribbling back to 1892.
James Naismith, _Rules for Basket Ball_, Springfield MA 1892 p 12
"Again, he may bat it in front of him as he runs, or dribble it with his
hand along the ground, but he cannot kick it with his feet, not even to
dribble it."

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> guard (OED, 7.d. [Basketball], 1897)
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> 1892 James Naismith in _Triangle_ (Springfield College newspaper) Jan.
> 7 (S= pringfield College digital archives)  It has been found
> advantageous to hav= e a goal keeper, two guards, three center men,
two
> wings, and a home man st= ationed in the above order from the goal.
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