"lanechtskipt" =? "landish-ship"
Dan Goncharoff
thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Tue Nov 12 17:34:08 UTC 2013
Thought from left field -- could "Lanecht--skipt" be "long-neck
ship-(of-the-desert)" = giraffe?
DanG
On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> Sorry, sent too quickly. W Brewer's supposition is that "echt" is
> part of the element that refers to land, and not a separate element
> meaning "genuine".
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> Joel
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> >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:22:49 -0500
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> >From: "Joel S. Berson" <Berson at att.net>
> >Subject: Re: [ADS-L] "lanechtskipt" =? "landish-ship"
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> >Playing along (although I'm skeptical, to say the least), would an
> >animal that is thought of as "-ish", "somewhat like, having the
> >nature of" be named with a word containing "echt", "true, genuine"?
> >
> >Joel
> >
> >At 11/11/2013 07:11 PM, W Brewer wrote:
> >>Playing with the idea of 'camel' & working backwards: assume a calque of
> >>the original Arabic <ship of the desert> or <desert ship>. Then,
> >><<lanecht>> would have to correspond to 'desert'. This is the tough part.
> >>Assume some cognate of English <land> (we think of as basically arable,
> >>however). Germanic & Celtic cognates imply a "free space" including
> 'heath,
> >>plain'. Free of trees, like a <lawn> (etymologically identical to French
> >><lande> 'wasteland' < Celtic 'heath, plain'). <<Lanecht>> could
> correspond
> >>by this reasoning to English *land-ish (an outlandish idea, actually).
> >>Whence "the landish-ship", meaning the camel as metaphorized as "the ship
> >>of the wasteland". Wonder if the Arabs view their homeland as a
> wasteland?
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