"lanechtskipt" =? "landish-ship"
Spanbock/Svoboda-Spanbock
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Tue Nov 12 19:10:22 UTC 2013
Is it possible that it is a native american animal name? It seems similar to massachusett.
On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
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> Thought from left field -- could "Lanecht--skipt" be "long-neck
> ship-(of-the-desert)" = giraffe?
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> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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>> Sorry, sent too quickly. W Brewer's supposition is that "echt" is
>> part of the element that refers to land, and not a separate element
>> meaning "genuine".
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>>> Playing along (although I'm skeptical, to say the least), would an
>>> animal that is thought of as "-ish", "somewhat like, having the
>>> nature of" be named with a word containing "echt", "true, genuine"?
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>>> Joel
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>>> At 11/11/2013 07:11 PM, W Brewer wrote:
>>>> Playing with the idea of 'camel' & working backwards: assume a calque of
>>>> the original Arabic <ship of the desert> or <desert ship>. Then,
>>>> <<lanecht>> would have to correspond to 'desert'. This is the tough part.
>>>> Assume some cognate of English <land> (we think of as basically arable,
>>>> however). Germanic & Celtic cognates imply a "free space" including
>> 'heath,
>>>> plain'. Free of trees, like a <lawn> (etymologically identical to French
>>>> <lande> 'wasteland' < Celtic 'heath, plain'). <<Lanecht>> could
>> correspond
>>>> by this reasoning to English *land-ish (an outlandish idea, actually).
>>>> Whence "the landish-ship", meaning the camel as metaphorized as "the ship
>>>> of the wasteland". Wonder if the Arabs view their homeland as a
>> wasteland?
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