haymaker (boxing) antedated (?) to 1899
Joel S. Berson
Berson at ATT.NET
Sun Aug 17 16:48:44 UTC 2014
I am led to wonder whether there is any
connection between "haymaker" and "rainmaker", in
one or more of three arenas -- batted ball in
baseball, and bringer-in of income. At least one
other connection -- rain makes hay. :-)
Joel
At 8/17/2014 11:57 AM, Christopher Philippo wrote:
>On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at DUKE.EDU> wrote:
> > "He [Brady] knows that there is more money in
> one fight in New York than th=
> > ere is in half dozen at Carson or some other
> outlandish place where finish =
> > fights are possible. Besides, he's got the
> best haymaker in the puglistic m=
> > eadow."
> >
> > Nov. 13, 1899 (Mon.), "The Old Sport's
> Musings" in The Philadelphia Inquire=
> > r p. 6 col. 1 (America's Historic Newspapers)
>
>I would have thought much older for
>haymaker=punch, if not necessarily
>boxer=haymaker. The Unions of Lansingburgh, a
>baseball team created in 1860, were nicknamed
>the Haymakers before 1867, possibly in
>1866. They had a reputation for being brawlers,
>but a number of recent texts about them present
>the nickname as big city slur on them being from
>the Town of Lansingburgh (known actually for its
>brush industry, not for being a farm
>community). Some do attribute it to their
>punches. Neither seem to present sources to
>back their claims (at least on a cursory review
>of them just now). Over time it may have meant
>both things with respect to the team, and it
>looks like it might also have come to mean a hit in baseball:
>
>When the news of the first innings was
>received, showing a tally of 6 for the Mowers
>to 0 for the Mutuals, the faces of the crowd
>perceptibly brightened, and it was felt that the
>reconstructed nine meant business, and the
>chances of their success looked decidedly
>encouraging, and as inning after inning came in,
>and the boys were seen to be steadily increasing
>their lead, hope became certainty, and there
>were plenty of Haymakers to be found, the
>batting of the Haymakers was very heavy, two and
>three base hits being frequently made, and York secured a home run.
>The National Game; Blood will TellThe
>Haymakers Mow Down the MutualsThe Blue Above
>the Green. Troy Daily Whig. May 26, 1871: 3 col 3.
>
>Chris Philippo
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