[Ads-l] "Don't hate. Appreciate!"
Laurence Horn
laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Wed Dec 10 14:25:52 UTC 2014
I became familiar with "hater" (/'het@(r)/ with the linking [r] pronounced intervocalically as in "hater in the house") years ago on SportsCenter, from Stuart Scott's usage, e.g. for a fielder who robs a hitter of a hit or a defender who intercepts a pass. Frequently also in "playa-hata", but with literal reference to a player on a field of athletic endeavor, not to those envious of successful womanizers.
LH
On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> Fred, I'd say so, though in this case any sort of "hater" (including the
> traditional kind) would not be excluded.
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> Evidence for "hate" and "hater" was too new and scanty to get them into
> HDAS II in 1997.
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> Cf. the slightly earlier hiphop "playa-hata" (sic), somebody who hates (in
> any fashion) "players" (in this case, usu. womanizers; it seems to me that
> the term was usually applied derisively to women who frowned on them rather
> than to men who envied them).
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> JL
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> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Charles C Doyle <cdoyle at uga.edu> wrote:
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>> Jon, does the term "hater," as in "don't let the haters get you down,"
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