"old wise tale"/"old wives tell"

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Wed Feb 19 04:09:19 UTC 2014


On Feb 18, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Herb Stahlke wrote:

> The Atlas of North American English shows the fill/feel merger in Southern
> Appalachians

Does that include Pittsburgh, home of the Stillers?

LH

> west into Louisiana, and then again in North and West Texas.
> The pull/pool merger is pretty much restricted to SW Pennsylvania.
>
> Herb
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> "Old wives tell" sounds like a Southern variety that laxes tense vowels
>>> before /l/.
>>>
>>
>> Is there one? In BE, "tell" for "tale," like "hill" for "heel" is peculiar
>> to a few random hypercorrectors and not (stereo)typical at all of the rest
>> of us, among whom "tale" for "tell" and "tale" and "heel" for "hill" and
>> "heel" is, so to speak, the "standard," as it were.
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