"old wise tale"/"old wives tell"

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Wed Feb 19 12:29:16 UTC 2014


Still does.


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:

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> On Feb 18, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Herb Stahlke wrote:
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> > The Atlas of North American English shows the fill/feel merger in
> Southern
> > Appalachians
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> Does that include Pittsburgh, home of the Stillers?
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> LH
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> > west into Louisiana, and then again in North and West Texas.
> > The pull/pool merger is pretty much restricted to SW Pennsylvania.
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> > Herb
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> > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com>
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> >>> "Old wives tell" sounds like a Southern variety that laxes tense vowels
> >>> before /l/.
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> >> Is there one? In BE, "tell" for "tale," like "hill" for "heel" is
> peculiar
> >> to a few random hypercorrectors and not (stereo)typical at all of the
> rest
> >> of us, among whom "tale" for "tell" and "tale" and "heel" for "hill" and
> >> "heel" is, so to speak, the "standard," as it were.
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