Linguistic boundaries [was: A novel notion of "balance"]

[Alice Faber]

I did a quick scan of the map Ben linked to, and didn't see any obvious
university influences (New Haven and Storrs). Of course, people who move
to these places for school or jobs are as likely to root for the
Cardinals or Cubs as the Yankees or Red Sox. Bristol (ESPN) didn't seem
all that different from the surrounding area, as well.

Alice

On 1/13/14 11:20 AM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
> At 1/13/2014 06:55 AM, Shapiro, Fred wrote:
>> Based on my own subjective experience living in the New Haven area,
>> there are a distressingly large number of Yankees fans here.
>
> Gownies?
>
> Joel
>
>
>> Fred Shapiro
>>
>>
>>
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>> Subject: Re: Linguistic boundaries [was: A novel notion of "balance"]
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Alice Faber wrote:
>> > On 1/12/14 9:54 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>> > > On Jan 12, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Alice Faber wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> As for the Red Sox-Yankees boundary, I would say it's shifted
>> east in
>> > >> the past decade. This isn't just due to the Red Sox' recent success
>> > >> (though that contributed); the addition of Red Sox broadcasts to
>> cable
>> > >> systems in the New Haven area makes it much easier to follow the Sox
>> > >> these days.
>> > >
>> > > Alice--you do mean the boundary has shifted west, right?  Or maybe
>> New
>> > > Haven County has shifted east?  Either way I agree, and I think
>> both radio
>> > > (especially for baseball) and football (especially for TV) has
>> played a major
>> > > role in establishing the relevant isofans.
>> >
>> > Yep...the other east. Towards the Pacific.
>>
>> For some big-data analysis of the Red Sox-Yankees boundary through CT,
>> see:
>>
>> http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390443324404577593533930872376
>>
>> http://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.com/2012/08/17/finding-the-true-border-between-yankee-and-red-sox-nation-using-facebook-data/
>>
>>
>> That's based on professed allegiance on Facebook, providing a much
>> bigger dataset than the "driving around and asking strangers" method
>> employed a few years before that by the Times:
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/18/sports/baseball/18fans.html
>>
>> --bgz
>>
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