Linguistic boundaries [was: A novel notion of "balance"]

Shapiro, Fred fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU
Mon Jan 13 16:28:55 UTC 2014


No, actually townies.  There are people of all types who just like rooting for wealthy winners.

Fred Shapiro



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At 1/13/2014 06:55 AM, Shapiro, Fred wrote:
>Based on my own subjective experience living in the New Haven area,
>there are a distressingly large number of Yankees fans here.

Gownies?

Joel


>Fred Shapiro
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>Ben Zimmer [bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM]
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>On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:56 PM, Alice Faber wrote:
> > On 1/12/14 9:54 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
> > > On Jan 12, 2014, at 8:07 PM, Alice Faber wrote:
> > >>
> > >> As for the Red Sox-Yankees boundary, I would say it's shifted east in
> > >> the past decade. This isn't just due to the Red Sox' recent success
> > >> (though that contributed); the addition of Red Sox broadcasts to cable
> > >> systems in the New Haven area makes it much easier to follow the Sox
> > >> these days.
> > >
> > > Alice--you do mean the boundary has shifted west, right?  Or maybe New
> > > Haven County has shifted east?  Either way I agree, and I think
> both radio
> > > (especially for baseball) and football (especially for TV) has
> played a major
> > > role in establishing the relevant isofans.
> >
> > Yep...the other east. Towards the Pacific.
>
>For some big-data analysis of the Red Sox-Yankees boundary through CT, see:
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>http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390443324404577593533930872376
>http://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.com/2012/08/17/finding-the-true-border-between-yankee-and-red-sox-nation-using-facebook-data/
>
>That's based on professed allegiance on Facebook, providing a much
>bigger dataset than the "driving around and asking strangers" method
>employed a few years before that by the Times:
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/18/sports/baseball/18fans.html
>
>--bgz
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