"out of" = 'in'

[Jonathan Lighter]

One could rationalize this as "from," but it idiomatically it's closer to
 "by":

"Published jointly out of food and yogurt giant Nestlé and Université Laval
in Quebec, the research suggests that obese women who add probiotics to
their diet plan -- most commonly found in yogurt -- could lose twice as
much weight as those who don't."

JL


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:

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> That's sick.
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> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:05 PM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com>
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> > "out of" is used horses to indicate the mare who gave birth to the horse
> > being identified (OED "out of" 3.b).  Could this sporting usage be the
> > source of of its contemporary use in sports writing about football
> players,
> > boxers, ect.?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Charles C Doyle <cdoyle at uga.edu> wrote:
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> > > In the introduction of pugilists who are about to compete in "Ultimate
> > > Fighting" bouts (we all watch those, don't we?) a fuller locution is
> > > customarily employed, which has struck me as especially odd.  For
> > example,
> > > "Fighting out of Athens, Georgia: Forrest Griffin."
> > >
> > > --Charlie
> > > ________________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > At 1/22/2014 05:45 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > > >No. Huge difference.
> > > >
> > > >The confident pace and inflection of the spoken utterance conveyed the
> > > >unmistakable idea that "out of Norman" referred to the location of the
> > > >University and not the origin of the story.
> > > >
> > > >Otherwise it would have been customary and journalistically idiomatic
> to
> > > >have said, "[And now, breaking news] out of Norman, Oklahoma: [a
> report
> > > of]
> > > >shots fired at the University of Oklahoma [there in Norman. That
> > breaking
> > > >news out of Norman, Oklahoma...]."
> > > >
> > > >Few newspeople seem to say "from" anywhere, if they can say "out of."
> > > >  That's been true for many years.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >JL
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > CNN reports "shots fired at the University of Oklahoma out of
> > Norman,
> > > > > > Oklahoma
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmmm...If you read, "CNN reports, out of Norman, Oklahoma, shots
> > fired
> > > at
> > > > > the University of Oklahoma," would you have said anything? Is
> there a
> > > > > difference?
> > > > >
> > > > > DanG
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