"Not All Men"
Ann Burlingham
ann at BURLINGHAMBOOKS.COM
Thu Jun 5 04:02:59 UTC 2014
(Oh, dear: i see I received two copies as a list member, one as it looked
when I wrote it, all neat and nice, and the other as I sometimes see
others' writing, full of messy mark-up notations. Is there a fix from my
end, either as sender or receiver?)
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Ann Burlingham <ann at burlinghambooks.com>
wrote:
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> I thought this discussion of the concept and phrase "Not all men" was
> interesting, from Time back on April 28th. The author is Jess ZImmerman. I
> am always pleased to see Joanna Russ quoted, and the cartoon the discussion
> is pegged from in excellent. From the piece, the cartoonist comments:
>
> =E2=80=9CI don=E2=80=99t recall a very specific instance so much as it was
> =
> sort of
> everywhere, very suddenly!=E2=80=9D Lubchansky wrote in an email.
> =E2=80=9C=
> But instead of
> this being something with a single origin, i think this phrase is unique
> among this kind of stuff because it was actually coming from the mouths of
> these dopes. Like some dummy would for REAL be coming at people talking
> about racial or gender equality stuff, waving their arms and saying =E2=80=
> =98UM
> ACTUALLY NOT ME!=E2=80=99=E2=80=9D
>
> Zimmerman writes:
>
> "It=E2=80=99s true that previous derailment favorites like
> =E2=80=9Cpatriar=
> chy hurts men
> too=E2=80=9D were paraphrases in a way that =E2=80=9Cnot all men=E2=80=9D
> i=
> s not. The demand is the
> same =E2=80=94 =E2=80=9Cplease move me to the center of your discussion=E2=
> =80=9D =E2=80=94 but =E2=80=9Cnot all
> men=E2=80=9D is, in many cases, straight from the horse=E2=80=99s mouth;
> ev=
> en an amateur
> Reddit spelunker can turn up plenty of sulky or defensive uses of the
> phrase.
>
> =E2=80=9CNot all men=E2=80=9D also differs from =E2=80=9Cwhat about the
> men=
> ?=E2=80=9D and other classic
> derails because it acknowledges that rape, sexism, and misogyny are real
> issues =E2=80=94 just not, you know, real issues that the speaker is
> involv=
> ed with
> in any way. The =E2=80=9Cnot all men=E2=80=9D man, at least in some cases,
> =
> agrees with you
> and is perfectly willing to talk about how terrible those other guys are,
> just as soon as we get done establishing that he himself would never be
> such a cad. It=E2=80=99s infuriating and unhelpful, but in a way it
> represe=
> nts a
> weird kind of progress."
>
>
>
>
> http://time.com/79357/not-all-men-a-brief-history-of-every-dudes-favorite-a=
> rgument/
>
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Ann Burlingham
Burlingham Books
2 South Main Street
Perry, NY 14530
Phone: 585-237-3190
Fax: 585-237-6465
www.burlinghambooks.com
Wyoming County Chamber of Commerce
Most Promising New Business 2007
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