Heard: "dog pound" > "dog pond"

[Jonathan Lighter]

It's pathetic.

JL


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:

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> On May 2, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > As I may have mentioned many years ago, I first heard and experienced
> > "saluggi" in Manhattan in 1959. That was in the seventh grade.
>
> Early-mid 50s for me, Washington Heights, but it is nice to know that the
> grand tradition was preserved.
> >
> > It was a "game" only for the sneering inciters, rather like bear-baiting
> in
> > that regard.  In extreme saluggi, the stolen hat could be thrown out of a
> > window or into traffic.
>
> I suppose so; I usually "played" or witnessed it in the out of doors.
> >
> > I suspect that league-leading saluggiers wind up doing jail time in later
> > life.
> >
>
> > At least I certainly hope so.
> >
> >
>
> And the saluggiees, if they recover, go on to become linguists.  Or
> something.
>
> LH
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu
> >wrote:
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> >> Thanks for the reference.  The Dutch source (iffy as it is) seems more
> >> likely than the reconstruction of "slide upon", which has a definite
> >> etymythological ring.  I'm unfamiliar with the other items in Gold's
> piece,
> >> "potsy" (for "hopscotch", which I confess we boys wouldn't have been
> >> experts in) and "akie"/"akey".  The only word I have for the latter is
> >> "halvsies", which is not localized.
> >>
> >> I was, however, all too familiar with the "game" of saluggi, which we've
> >> discussed here in the distant past and which is covered nicely at
> >> ttp://
> www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/salugi_or_saloogie
> >> It's basically like playing keepaway with the difference that you can't
> >> say "Let's play saluggi, I'll be it".  The rules called for saluggi to
> be
> >> non-consensual, with the goal of reducing the victim to tears.
> >>
> >> LH
> >>
> >>
> >> On May 2, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Charles C Doyle wrote:
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> >>> In _American Speech_ 56 (1981) 17-20, David Gold discussed possible
> >> etymologies of "sliding pond."
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> >>> --Charlie
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> >>> Poster:       Laurence Horn
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> >>> No relation to the "sliding pond" (= 'slide') we hung out at in the
> >> playground in NYC (from the Dutch?  from "slide upon"?)
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> >>> LH
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