Heard: "dog pound" > "dog pond"

[Laurence Horn]

On May 2, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

> As I may have mentioned many years ago, I first heard and experienced
> "saluggi" in Manhattan in 1959. That was in the seventh grade.

Early-mid 50s for me, Washington Heights, but it is nice to know that the grand tradition was preserved.
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> It was a "game" only for the sneering inciters, rather like bear-baiting in
> that regard.  In extreme saluggi, the stolen hat could be thrown out of a
> window or into traffic.

I suppose so; I usually "played" or witnessed it in the out of doors.
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> I suspect that league-leading saluggiers wind up doing jail time in later
> life.
>

> At least I certainly hope so.
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And the saluggiees, if they recover, go on to become linguists.  Or something.

LH
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> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:
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>> Thanks for the reference.  The Dutch source (iffy as it is) seems more
>> likely than the reconstruction of "slide upon", which has a definite
>> etymythological ring.  I'm unfamiliar with the other items in Gold's piece,
>> "potsy" (for "hopscotch", which I confess we boys wouldn't have been
>> experts in) and "akie"/"akey".  The only word I have for the latter is
>> "halvsies", which is not localized.
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>> I was, however, all too familiar with the "game" of saluggi, which we've
>> discussed here in the distant past and which is covered nicely at
>> ttp://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/salugi_or_saloogie
>> It's basically like playing keepaway with the difference that you can't
>> say "Let's play saluggi, I'll be it".  The rules called for saluggi to be
>> non-consensual, with the goal of reducing the victim to tears.
>>
>> LH
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>> On May 2, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Charles C Doyle wrote:
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>>> In _American Speech_ 56 (1981) 17-20, David Gold discussed possible
>> etymologies of "sliding pond."
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>>> --Charlie
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>>> Poster:       Laurence Horn
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>>> No relation to the "sliding pond" (= 'slide') we hung out at in the
>> playground in NYC (from the Dutch?  from "slide upon"?)
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>>> LH
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