Heard: "dog pound" > "dog pond"

[Jonathan Lighter]

As I may have mentioned many years ago, I first heard and experienced
"saluggi" in Manhattan in 1959. That was in the seventh grade.

It was a "game" only for the sneering inciters, rather like bear-baiting in
that regard.  In extreme saluggi, the stolen hat could be thrown out of a
window or into traffic.

I suspect that league-leading saluggiers wind up doing jail time in later
life.

At least I certainly hope so.

JL


On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:

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> Thanks for the reference.  The Dutch source (iffy as it is) seems more
> likely than the reconstruction of "slide upon", which has a definite
> etymythological ring.  I'm unfamiliar with the other items in Gold's piece,
> "potsy" (for "hopscotch", which I confess we boys wouldn't have been
> experts in) and "akie"/"akey".  The only word I have for the latter is
> "halvsies", which is not localized.
>
> I was, however, all too familiar with the "game" of saluggi, which we've
> discussed here in the distant past and which is covered nicely at
> ttp://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/salugi_or_saloogie
> It's basically like playing keepaway with the difference that you can't
> say "Let's play saluggi, I'll be it".  The rules called for saluggi to be
> non-consensual, with the goal of reducing the victim to tears.
>
> LH
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> On May 2, 2014, at 7:43 AM, Charles C Doyle wrote:
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> > In _American Speech_ 56 (1981) 17-20, David Gold discussed possible
> etymologies of "sliding pond."
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> > --Charlie
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> > Poster:       Laurence Horn
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> > No relation to the "sliding pond" (= 'slide') we hung out at in the
> playground in NYC (from the Dutch?  from "slide upon"?)
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> > LH
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