Gentleman Harry Simms, Flash, and the OED

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Mon Sep 15 19:42:23 UTC 2014


> a shortened form of "flash language"

That would seem to be the simplest explanation.

JL

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Eric Nielsen <ericbarnak at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Yes, Joel, I assume the "flash" in "flash language" and "flash company" to
> be the same attribute. Referring to those who live fast, free, and with a
> flourish ( e.g., wearing a yellow handkerchief).
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> Couldn't "flash" as a noun meaning a type of criminal cant be a shortened
> form of "flash language"? The song, of course, is a preservation of usage
> from earlier days.
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> *Flash Company* was first noted in Limerick, sung to the tune of *The Green
> Bushes*, on the mid 1850's.
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> http://mainlynorfolk.info/watersons/songs/flashcompany.html
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> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > At 9/15/2014 08:31 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > >But in the songs it's an adjective, not a noun meaning criminal lingo.
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> > The OED "flash, adj.3" sense 5.b combines the adj. with "Also
> > quasi-noun".  The 1747 quotation is adj., the 1756 noun. Etc.
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