[Ads-l] locomotives as female

Sun Apr 19 16:58:32 UTC 2015

Does that really fit?  From the little I've read about it, the emphasis seems to be not on the train entering a tunnel, but rather on the lights going out so the couple's erotic act could be hidden from other passengers (and the shockable movie viewer of 1899).
Joel

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Not to mention, I guess, since you didn't, "A Kiss In The Tunnel", the 1899
film that started the cliche.
On Apr 18, 2015 8:50 PM, "Laurence Horn" <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:

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> > On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:52 PM, Joel Berson <berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
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> > "North by Northwest", 1959.
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> I was thinking Hitchcock, but probably just remembering that one.  "The =
> Lady Eve" is another according to this page:
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> Shots of trains entering tunnels would, after all, eventually become the =
> crudest and most obvious sexual metaphor in all of cinema (as seen in =
> The Lady Eve, North By Northwest, The Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear =
> and countless other movies).=20
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> (Naked Gun and Monty Python etc. don't really count; what we're looking =
> for are serious, although not necessarily creative, uses of the =
> metaphor/trope.)  If there are countless ones, that implies more than =
> two.  I think there may have been a semi-serious (or at least =
> non-spoofing) use in one of the Nick 'n' Nora Thin Man mysteries, but I =
> may be misremembering.
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> LH
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> > I think some well-known spoof movie spoofing other movies has a "train =
> entering a tunnel" scene, together with several other metaphors.  It's =
> so well known that, as Yogi might say, everyone, including me, has =
> forgotten its name.
> > But are those the only two?
> > Joel
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> > Could you give the titles of some of those movies, Larry?
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> > I've often wondered just how true that claim was.
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> > BTW, engineer George Alley, in "The Wreck on the C&O Road"  (ca1895)  =
> says,
> > "I want to die with the engine I love,/ One hundred and forty-three."
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> >> Right, you just have to make sure it's not a locomotif.
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> >> (Of course the younger generations haven't been raised on all those =
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> >> movies in which love scenes pan to shots of trains entering =
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> >>> On Apr 17, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM> =3D
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> >>> My nephew, who is a great train buff, the other day referred to a
> >>> locomotive as "her."  I asked about the gender, and he said it's
> >>> conventional to refer to locomotives as feminine.
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