[Ads-l] locomotives as female
Joel Berson
berson at ATT.NET
Sat Apr 25 15:30:25 UTC 2015
I wasn't told what to think by Hitchcock.
Joel
From: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
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Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [ADS-L] locomotives as female
Interesting, but I'm not sure that *any* censorious (or non-censorious)
viewer would be likely to "get it," no matter how "impudent" Hitchcock
[sic] thought he was being.
It may not have been a phallic symbol to anyone else until the master told
them what to think about it. (Cf. my old, frequently cited pal Humpty
Dumpty.)
Evidently the answer is a variant of Number 3, though few were expected to
get the point [sic].
JL
On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Christopher Philippo <toff at mac.com> wrote:
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> On Apr 25, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> =
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> > I wonder now what it actually means to say that the tunnel moment in =
> question, the final moment of the film, is a "phallic symbol."
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> Hitchcock: the final shot, immediately following that scene in the =
> sleeping-car, is probably one of the most impudent shots I ever made.
> Truffaut: When the train goes into the tunnel?
> Hitchcock: Yes. The phallic symbol.
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> I would guess it was mainly impudent with respect to American film =
> censors who indeed might be so dense as not to get a fairly obvious =
> throwaway gag; censors are strange critters. I would not give it too =
> much thought - dating back to his silent film days Hitchcock employed =
> numerous slight visual jokes, puns or symbols, some obvious, some less =
> so. Enjoyment of the film does not depend on them all being perceived, =
> or on them all being clever.=
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