[Ads-l] Anglicizing carpe diem

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Aug 9 11:16:17 UTC 2015


Huh?

JL

On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 9:58 PM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

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> LOL. Those examples certainly look that way! I wonder if they are
> purposeful puns? BB
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> > Joel Berson <mailto:berson at ATT.NET>
> > 8 August 2015 at 17:43
> >
> > "Carpe diem" (verb) seems to mean "seize the body, sexually"!
> >
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > From: Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
> > Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2015 6:49 PM
> > Subject: [ADS-L] Anglicizing carpe diem
> >
> > I probably learned the term "carpe diem" in high school, but it sticks
> > in my memory mainly from "Dead Poet's Society," a 1989 film
> > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_diem) about living for the moment
> > even if it means death.
> >
> > World Dictionary of Foreign Expressions: A Resource for Readers and
> > Writers
> > By Gabriel Adeleye, Kofi Acquah-Dadzie
> > defines (http://bit.ly/1T6VAW2) "carpe diems" as a plural noun meaning:
> > Enjoying the pleasures of the day with no regard for the future
> >
> > The Oxford Dictionary site
> > (
> https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/carpe-diem?q=carpe+diem
> )
> >
> > says "carpe diem" is an exclamation and Wiktionary
> > (https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/carpe_diem) labels it a proverb, but the
> > phrase has found its way into various parts of speech.
> >
> > 1. Despite the label Wiktionary gives the expression, that page provides
> > an attributive citation:
> >
> > =====
> > 1905, G. K. Chesterton, Heretics[1], New York: John Lane, OL 24174141M:
> > It is the carpe diem religion; but the carpe diem religion is not the
> > religion of happy people, but of very unhappy people.
> > =====
> >
> > 2. _English Department Newsletter_
> > September 7, 1943
> > Evidently by Lt. B. Baum, evidently edited by Angell Hall
> > http://bit.ly/1Iua6PC
> >
> > =====
> > I was granted an eight-day leave, ... was spent carpe-dieming roundabout
> > N.Y.--trying out new ... and seeing shows and just generally practicing
> > a decent ... epicureanism.
> > =====
> >
> > 3. "Correspondence" in _The Carleton Miscellany_ by Rackstraw Downes
> > Winter 1962
> > p. 108
> > http://bit.ly/1W9htDc
> > Full text available under Download > All at http://bit.ly/1f0BABD
> >
> > In response to an article by George P. Elliott, Downes writes:
> >
> > =====
> > "As venerable as _carpe diem_" he writes a few pagers later. Because
> > Catullus and half a dozen others in antiquity wrote classic _carpe
> > diems_, does this in any sense invalidate e.g. Ronsard's, Ben Johnson's,
> > e. e. cummings' exquisite variations?
> > =====
> >
> > I have no idea what this means, but it looks like a noun use.
> >
> > http://bit.ly/1T6Uc5M and http://bit.ly/1W9hVBt from the 1970s seem to
> > have similar uses. 1995 http://bit.ly/1KaWGWE seems to define a "carpe
> > diem" as an exhortation to seize the day.
> >
> > 4. _Another Chicano Magazine_
> > 1989, dating by Google
> > http://bit.ly/1DDHS5P
> >
> > =====
> > He carpe diems and grabs her, thigh-high, in pretense of helping "steady
> > as she goes." The firm, slick nylon translates to his pituitary some
> > urgent four-letter code.
> > =====
> >
> > 5. _Enter Whining_
> > 1996
> > By Fran Drescher
> > http://bit.ly/1IPIgdJ, http://bit.ly/1MUnQas
> >
> > =====
> > You'll laugh at the way Fran schmoozes her way into her own television
> > series as she carpe diems with a CBS network executive who has the
> > misfortune of being trapped in first class ("Where was he gonna go,
> > coach?") with her on a 747 to
> > =====
> >
> > 6. _Photographer's Forum_, Volume 22
> > 1999, Google dated
> > http://bit.ly/1KXSQWF
> >
> > =====
> > I "carpe diemed" a few times in my life.
> > =====
> >
> > Benjamin Barrett
> > Formerly of Seattle, WA
> >
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