[Ads-l] RES: redshirt (UNCLASSIFIED)

Thu Jun 4 00:03:56 UTC 2015

GUY LETOURNEAU wrote:
> Decades ago, MAD magazine ran a wonderful parody to the tune of
> "Age of Aquarius" about generic red-shirts.
> I can only remember a middle fragment:

October 1976 Mad Star Trek Musical page scans :

http://mystartrekscrapbook.blogspot.com/2008/11/1976-mad-star-trek-spoof.html

Short link:  http://bit.ly/1Fv7xJg

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 7:48 PM, GUY LETOURNEAU Owner
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> Decades ago, MAD magazine ran a wonderful parody to the tune of
> "Age of Aquarius" about generic red-shirts.
> I can only remember a middle fragment:
>
>
> ... to distant worlds, way past Mars
> Be sure that your adventures
> do - not - kill off your stars!
>
> And we can do it with a crew that's dispensible, a crew that's dispensible,..
> dispensible!
>
> Minor actors that you bring on
> Perish when the meet a Klingon
> One-time faces not seen later
> stumble in a planet's crater ...
>
> It was illustrated by an endless line of security men walking off a plank extending from the NCC-1701 hanger bay. Great fun!
>
> - GLL
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> Scotty wore/wears a red shirt and that character is pretty long lived. But,=
>
> in the latest Star Trek, Chris Pine's Kirk needs Chekov to take over
> engineering and he tells Chekov "go put on a red shirt," to which Chekov
> gives Kirk an odd look. Whether they are inside-joking the rep of the red
> shirt, dunno.
> DAD
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> Poster:       Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject:      Re: redshirt (UNCLASSIFIED)
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> re redshirt in Star Trek: I think the real point is that they are not
> credited by name in the cast. The death thing is sometimes true, sometimes
> not; instead they are filler in the corridors of the Enterprise.
>
> DanG
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> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Mullins, Bill CIV (US) <
> william.d.mullins18.civ at mail.mil> wrote:
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>> Poster:       "Mullins, Bill CIV (US)" <william.d.mullins18.civ at MAIL.MIL>=
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>> Subject:      redshirt (UNCLASSIFIED)
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>> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>> Caveats: NONE
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>> This sense isn't in the OED.
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>>
>> _NY Post_ 24 May 2015
>> "Martin was further panicked to learn her child had been born in the wron=
> g
>> =3D
>> month; many women on the Upper East Side time their pregnancies and IVF
>> tre=3D
>> atments to school enrollment, so their child will begin school at the
>> oldes=3D
>> t age possible - a practice known as redshirting."
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> http://nypost.com/2015/05/24/inside-the-bizarre-life-of-an-upper-east-side-=
> =3D
>> housewife/
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>> _Ukiah [CA] Daily Journal_ 2 Jan 1991 p 5 col 4
>> "Redshirting, or holding children back from entering school to be sure
>> they=3D
>> 'll be academically strong later, is a practice that started in private
>> sch=3D
>> ools on the East Coast."
>>
>> Melitta Cutright _Growing Up Confident_ NY:Doubleday, 1992. p 187
>> "Other parents, believing that older students are always more successful,=
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>> a=3D
>> re electing on their own to "redshirt" their children in hopes of giving
>> th=3D
>> em an advantage over other children."
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>> _USA Weekend_ 5 Sep 1993 p 16 col 2
>> "With a growing emphasis on school performance, more and more parents are=
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>> h=3D
>> olding their kids back from kindergarten for a year.  They think
>> "redshirti=3D
>> ng," named after a similar practice among college students, gives kids an=
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>> e=3D
>> dge."
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>> I also note that neither the OED nor the OED SF project doesn't include
>> the=3D
>>  _Star Trek_ sense of redshirt:  A person of minor importance who will
>> like=3D
>> ly get killed.  (But it is in _Brave New Worlds_)
>> http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RedShirt
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshirt_(character)
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>> Dirk Hayhurst _Out of My League: A Rookie's Survival in the Big Leagues_
>> NY=3D
>> : Citadel Press, 2012 p 119
>> "Now I felt a lot like one of the red shirts in Star Trek:  nameless,
>> facel=3D
>> ess, and the first to die."
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