[Ads-l] 9to5Mac: "salty" in the wild, by coinkidink

[Z Rice]

I would not agree that "holla" is a "revival", as I've heard it since I was
a child, my father has heard it since he was a child, and it was spoken my
grandparent (who is now pushing 100 y/o) and my great-grandparents (who are
now deceased). It also occurs regularly in the slavery narratives. So it is
not a "revival". It is a part of the everyday speech of the afro-american
population. I use the term hesitantly because I am speaking specifically of
the Black population that is native to this country (culturally,
historically, etc).

The difference is that it is now considered "stylish" or "trendy" by white
youths. But this culture and speech does not suddenly come into existence -
nor is it "revived" - when "discovered" by whites. That was the implication
in Zimmer's (?) email and we find it all too often in such media.

I'm not even convinced that the first "salty" meaning that he provided is
even related to the afro-american usage of "salty". I have no reason to
believe that.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Among comments WRT Apple's being threatened with legal action for being
> "anti-competitive," because it demands a 30% cut from any other company
> wanting to push product by participating in the so-called "Apple
> ecosystem," forcing such company to take a 30% loss in gross profit or to
> charge a fee 30% higher than Apple's, clearly a gigantic kick in the arse
> for, e.g. Spotify, were:
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> A: "Apple=E2=80=99s response to this should be: You don=E2=80=99t agree
> wit=
> h what we
> charge, easy: remove your app from our ecosystem and go fuck yourself."
>
> B. "Are all Apple fanboiz so _salty_?"
>
> (Judging by other responses only trivially distinct from A's, the answer to
> this question is a resounding "Yes!!!")
>
> IMO, this kind of thing represents a spread and not a "revival," since,
> IME, "salty" has never not been alive and kicking in the BE "slang
> ecosystem," to coin a phrase. OTOH, I would agree, were anyone to assert
> it, that, e.g. "ADJ like that" or "holler"/"holla" are revivals. I've known
> that there's a song with the title, "It's Tight Like That," since God
> stretched out on the Seventh Day, but only relatively recently have I
> actually *heard* "ADJ like that." Back in the day, "holler"/"holla" was
> ordinary - in the mouth of my mother - b. 1913 - and in the mouths of other
> ladies elderly like that. But, naturally, you wouldn't go about the 'hood
> talking like yo' mama.
> --=20
> -Wilson
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