[Ads-l] Yale Grammatical Diversity Project - Slate

REED, PAUL reedpe at EMAIL.SC.EDU
Tue Jun 30 00:41:44 UTC 2015


It's a 3 items in series: 1) recency or incorrectness illusions, 2) the assumption that a non-standard expression is nascent when in fact it has been around for decades, 3) or just wrong. 

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I had to repunctuate and emend the last sentence to make sense of it:

Often, such judgments are the result of recency or incorrectness illusions;
the assumption that a nonstandard expression is nascent [? -- "recent'],
when in fact it has been around for decades; or just wrong.

GAT

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:27 PM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com>
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> I have no idea why I'm supposed to come again. This is an article about a
> project that Laurence Horn is involved in if that helps. BB
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>  Wilson Gray <mailto:hwgray at GMAIL.COM>
>> June 29, 2015 at 4:11 PM
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>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Benjamin Barrett<gogaku at ix.netcom.com>
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>>  According to Zanuttini and Horn, the negative reactions many people hav=
e
>>> to, say, Appalachian varieties of English are not inherent reactions to
>>> grammar or word order but rather =3DE2=3D80=3D9Cpersonal judgments abou=
t the
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>> eakers
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>>> who use them.=3DE2=3D80=3D9D Often, such judgments are the result of re=
cency or
>>> incorrectness illusions, the assumption that a nonstandard expression i=
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>>> nascent, when in fact it has been around for decades, or just wrong.
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>> Come again?
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>> Benjamin Barrett <mailto:gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
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>> http://slate.me/1Hr6vCD
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>> Caroline Zola discusses the project in "Documenting the Diversity of
>> American English."
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>> One snippet:
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>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> According to Zanuttini and Horn, the negative reactions many people have
>> to, say, Appalachian varieties of English are not inherent reactions to
>> grammar or word order but rather =C3=A2EURoepersonal judgments about the
>> speakers
>> who use them.=C3=A2EUR? Often, such judgments are the result of recency =
or
>> incorrectness illusions, the assumption that a nonstandard expression is
>> nascent, when in fact it has been around for decades, or just wrong.
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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