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[George Thompson]

I'm thinking that a joy ride or jazz ride ends on the same airfield it left
from, as opposed to providing transportation to a destination.  Therefore
it is foolishness; but I'll accept foolish and exciting.

GAT

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Maybe not "nonsensical" but "exciting."
>
> Cf. "joyride" itself.
>
> JL
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> > Subject: Re: Interesting early use of 'jazz' far away from music
> > From: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
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> > Maybe not "nonsensical" but "exciting."
> >
> > Consider "joyride" itself.
> >
> > JL
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:43 PM, George Thompson <
> george.thompson at nyu.edu>
> > wrote:
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> > > Subject:      Re: Interesting early use of 'jazz' far away from music
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> > >
> > > This fits with the sense of the first two appearances of "jazz" -- Ben
> > > Henderson's "jazz curve" and the statement that the idea that a young
> > > ballplayer isn't talented is "all to the jazz" -- the sense of
> nonsense,
> > > foolishness, or such.  Henderson's jazz curve was ridiculous: it
> wobbled;
> > > the misunderestimation of the young player is nonsense; and a jazz trip
> > in
> > > an airplane without purpose or destination is foolish.
> > >
> > > All but one of the rest of the citations from 1914 (as I recall) show
> the
> > > other sense: energy or enthusiasm; which is the sense that links to
> > "jazz"
> > > in music.
> > >
> > > GAT
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Geoffrey Steven Nathan <
> > > geoffnathan at wayne.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I subscribe to an aviation trade journal (Aviation Week) which is
> > having
> > > a
> > > > feature on 100 years of 'airline technology'. Here's a quote from an
> > > > article:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On a bright New Year's Day morning in 1914, an enthusiastic crowd
> that
> > > had
> > > > gathered at the yacht basin in St. Petersburg, Florida, cheered with
> > > > delight as a fragile-looking Benoist XIV floatplane left the water
> and
> > > > pointed its blunt nose in the direction of nearby Tampa. Squeezed
> into
> > > the
> > > > tiny cockpit were pioneer aviator Tony Jannus and Abe Pheil, a former
> > St.
> > > > Petersburg mayor who had bid $400 to become the first fare-paying
> > > passenger
> > > > on the world's first scheduled, fixed-wing airline flight. Percival
> > > > Fansler, the local businessman behind the St.
> >
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-- 
George A. Thompson
The Guy Who Still Looks Stuff Up in Books.
Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern
Univ. Pr., 1998..

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