[Ads-l] RES: RES: planers, sawyers and snags

David Daniel dad at COARSECOURSES.COM
Tue Dec 6 15:59:41 EST 2016


Yep, looks like Ben was nail-on-the-head with planters. 
DAD

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Poster:       Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: RES: planers, sawyers and snags
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There are many hits for "planters, sawyers and snags",

Here's one from 1839 in the context of the Mississippi:

https://books.google.com/books?id=3Dw8oBAAAAYAAJ&lpg=3DPA187&ots=3Dpj0qqMD9=
4U&dq=3D%22planters%2C%20sawyers%20and%20snags%22&pg=3DPA187#v=3Donepage&q=
=3D%22planters,%20sawyers%20and%20snags%22&f=3Dfalse

Henry Clay used the phrase in the context of the Mississippi in 1825:

https://books.google.com/books?id=3D3bceBgAAQBAJ&lpg=3DPA716&dq=3D%22plante=
rs%2C%20sawyers%20and%20snags%22&pg=3DPA716#v=3Donepage&q=3D%22planters,%20=
sawyers%20and%20snags%22&f=3Dfalse


On Dec 6, 2016 12:07 PM, "David Daniel" <dad at coarsecourses.com> wrote:

Thanks! Could well be an enshrined typo. There are over 400 hits for
"planers, sawyers, and snags on the Mississippi" (in quotes for exact hits)=
, and zero for "planters, sawyers, and snags on the Mississippi", but all
the former could have come from one typoed source, maybe in the 1824 Act
itself= .
And "planters" certainly seems to fit the bill, with "sawyers" being trees
actually growing on the riverbed.
Thanks again,
DAD

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Assunto: Re: planers, sawyers and snags

Poster:       Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: planers, sawyers and snags
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Suspect it should be "planters." OED def 9 for "planter" is: "U.S. regional
(chiefly Mississippi Valley and Ohio Valley). A snag formed by a tree trunk
embedded in a more or less erect position in a river." Was a typo enshrined
somewhere along the way?

On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:24 AM, David Daniel <dad at coarsecourses.com> wrote=
:

> An 1824 Act of Congress included in the Army Corps of Engineers'
> responsibilities "to remove sand bars on the Ohio and planers, 
> sawyers, and snags on the Mississippi" rivers. I can't find "planers"
> in this sense anywhere. Perhaps someone out there with OED access?
> Thanks,
> DAD
>
>
>

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