[Ads-l] More from Barry Popik: Muhammad Ali quotes (third helping); "Vote blue, no matter who"

Sun Jun 5 22:23:04 UTC 2016

Barry shared more information on Muhammad Ali quotes with a few members of our listserv,
and Garson O'Toole commented on one of them. I now share the two messages with the entire listserv.

Gerald Cohen 
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From: Garson O'Toole [garsonotoole at gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 5:11 PM
To: Barry Popik
Cc: 
Subject: Re: Muhammad Ali quotes (third helping); "Vote blue, no matter who"

> MUHAMMAD ALI QUOTES (CONTINUED)
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> http://barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/so_fast_i_turned_off_the_light_in_my_hotel_room/
> "So fast, I turned of the light in my hotel room and was in bed before it
> was dark."
> Widely attributed (Yale Book of Quotations) to Satchel Paige talking about
> Cool Papa Bell's speed in the old Negro Leagues. It was old before Muhammad
> Ali ever said it. However, it's older still--Moran and Mack used it in
> vaudeville in 1919.

Barry,
  Excellent work on the various sayings attributed to Ali.
  You probably did not notice that I created an entry on the
turning-off-light joke in 2013. The analysis included an earlier 1917
citation.

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/06/12/before-dark/

Garson

From: Barry Popik [bapopik at aol.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 4:55 PM
To: Cohen, Gerald Leonard
Cc: 
Subject: Muhammad Ali quotes (third helping); "Vote blue, no matter who"

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"VOTE BLUE, NO MATTER WHO"
http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/vote_blue_no_matter_who/
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Probably a big political saying this week if Hillary Clinton wins enough Democratic delegates on Tuesday. This deserves more exposure than on my website and my Twitter, where no one will ever see it.
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MUHAMMAD ALI QUOTES (CONTINUED)
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http://barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/so_fast_i_turned_off_the_light_in_my_hotel_room/
"So fast, I turned of the light in my hotel room and was in bed before it was dark."
Widely attributed (Yale Book of Quotations) to Satchel Paige talking about Cool Papa Bell's speed in the old Negro Leagues. It was old before Muhammad Ali ever said it. However, it's older still--Moran and Mack used it in vaudeville in 1919.
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http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/service_is_the_rent_we_pay_to_live_on_this_earth/

"Service is the rent we pay to live on this earth"
>From at least 1917. Muhammad Ali did say it in the 1970s after donating to a New York City charity (and helping a home stay open), but many people have said it. This has usually been in the Ali quote articles this week, even though I wrote this entry three years ago.
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http://barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/if_you_even_dream_of_beting_me/

"If you even dream of beating me, you'd better wake up and apologize"
Ali did say this, from at least 1968.
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http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/boxing_is_like_a_ballet/

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other"
>From "Deep Thoughts" by Saturday Night Live's Jack Handey. I found an earlier "To me, boxing is like a ballet" cite, without the punchline.
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Sent: Sat, Jun 4, 2016 2:16 pm
Subject: Muhammad Ali quotes (more!)

There's been one "like" on Twitter for me on this, so there's that. 
--Barry Popik
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http://barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/if_they_can_make_penicillin_from_moldy_bread/
"If they can make penicillin from moldy bread, you can become something."
>From 1959, but the NY Times has a great quote from when Ali said this at the New School for Social Research. Maybe the NYT can reprint this?
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http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/its_just_a_job_i_beat_people_up/
"It's just a job. Grass grows, birds fly, waves pound the sand. I beat people up."
>From the NY Times in 1977. Maybe the NYT can reprint this, too?
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http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/the_will_must_be_sronger_than_the_skill/

"The will must be stronger than the skill"
>From THE GREATEST (1975). For some reason, I couldn't access the full text in either Google Books or Amazon.
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http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/champions_are_made_when_nobody_is_watching_exercise_adage/

"Champions are made when no one is watching"
I have this from 1992, but Ali said a version of it? It's popular on gym posters, but the wording varies a lot.
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