[Ads-l] QOTY? multiple positions (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Laurence Horn]

> On Jun 29, 2016, at 6:47 PM, Joel Berson <berson at ATT.NET> wrote:
> 
> Now perhaps someone can take it back to having been applied to Cato?
> 
> Joel

Or at least to Gandhi.

LH
> 
>      From: ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>
> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [ADS-L] QOTY? multiple positions (UNCLASSIFIED)
> 
> Excellent find, LH. Here is an excerpt from a book with a 1977 GB
> date. (Now, I see that Ben has already replied. But the slightly
> longer excerpt might be useful.)
> 
> Year: 1977
> Title: Promises to Keep: Carter's First Hundred Days
> Author: Robert Shogan
> Quote Page 43
> Database: Google Books snippet; data may be inaccurate and should be
> verified on paper
> 
> [Begin excerpt]
> The critics replied that Carter's fault was not that he had too few
> positions on issues — but rather that he had too many positions on
> each issue. "He has more positions than the Kama Sutra," Mark Shields,
> one of Morris Udall's advisers, wisecracked.
> [End excerpt]
> 
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at gmail.com> wrote:
>> In Robert Shogan's _Promises To Keep: Carter's First Hundred Days_ (1977),
>> it's credited to Mark Shields, who was an adviser to Mo Udall in the '76
>> campaign.
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__books.google.com_books-3Fid-3DXpx4AAAAMAAJ-26q-3D-2522kama-2Bsutra-2522&d=CwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=qJGciBa4n5HaF6mDFYsuWGJWv0uwxILVWzamEdaB_8Q&s=y2xzOTzqOnE7-xk63KoTkwCWHT0M7RPDxQmuoGefaBU&e= 
>> 
>> Interestingly, it was Shields who later attributed the line to Huckabee re
>> Romney.
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Here's one in which it's reported as having been used to describe Jimmy
>>> Carter, so back to the late 70s or so:
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__tinyurl.com_jn2oacp&d=CwIFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=wFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=qJGciBa4n5HaF6mDFYsuWGJWv0uwxILVWzamEdaB_8Q&s=sQqzrIHtlkfsIepPASypY8p4EmoCEr7UIhbLBg86y0M&e= 
>>> 
>>> Appropriate, I suppose, given the Lto-do about Carter's admission during
>>> one of the debates that he "lusted after women in [his] heart".
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 12:14 PM, Mullins, Bill CIV (US) <
>>> william.d.mullins18.civ at MAIL.MIL> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The dates below suggest a shift from squid to humans rather than the
>>> other way 'round.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would be very interested in the earliest application(s) to
>>> politicians, however.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Elyria OH _Chronicle-Telegram _  27 Feb 1983 p B2 col 3 [
>>> newspaperarchive.com]
>>>> [syndicated column, referring to Gary Hart]
>>>> "He has more positions than the Kama Sutra."
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>       From: ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>
>>>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 8:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [ADS-L] QOTY? multiple positions
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bill Mullins wrote
>>>>>> _Chicago Tribune_ 3 Dec 1982 sec 3 p 13 col 2 [article about martial
>>>>>> arts studio] "They fight with everything at Degerberg; all parts of
>>>>>> the body in more positions than the Kama Sutra."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Below is an instance of the phrase in 1981. The domain of application
>>> was shifted from humans to squid.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Date: July 31, 1981
>>>>> Newspaper: Santa Cruz Sentinel
>>>>> Newspaper Location: Santa Cruz, California
>>>>> Article: Squid: From Bait to Plate
>>>>> Author: Greg Beebe (Sentinel Staff Writer) (Continuation title) From
>>> Bait to Plate Start Page 17, Quote Page 26
>>>>> Database: Newspapers.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> [Begin excerpt]
>>>>> "Did you know that squid have both male and female sex organs? How
>>> kinky."
>>>>> "Squid are instinctively driven — they have to mate. They have these
>>> 72-hour sex marathons. Each has 10 arms and tentacles — hey, that's
>>>>> more positions than the Kama Sutra. When they're through, they're so
>>> exhausted the fishermen just pick 'em up off the surface of the sea."
>>>>> [End excerpt]
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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