[Ads-l] recruit
Joel Berson
berson at ATT.NET
Mon May 16 13:35:53 UTC 2016
I believe Jon wrote earlier that what's interesting about the sense under discussion is that it's not in the OED.
True, I think, but perhaps only because sense 4 of "recruit, v." (OED3, June 2009) is disorganized re military/civilian and intransitive/transitive?
4.a: intr. Mil. To seek or enlist new recruits to a military force. Now also: to seek or enlist new members, supporters, or employees.
4.b: trans. Mil. To enlist (a new recruit) to a military force. Also: to form (a regiment, etc.) from newly enlisted recruits.
4.c: trans. To acquire (a person) as an employee, member, or supporter of a society, organization, etc.
4.d: trans. U.S. To induce (an athlete) to enrol at a college or university.
I note that 4.a (intr.) includes "seek" and adds civilians to the military. 4.c (trans.) excludes seek. 4.a even includes an intransitive quote for seeking athletes. But the transitive 4.d excludes seeking.
Joel
From: "Shapiro, Fred" <fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU>
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Subject: Re: [ADS-L] recruit
In my experience both as a sports fan and as an administrator in the nonprofit sector, the verb "recruit" is often used to mean "attempt to get someone to join you," regardless of whether the person did actually join you.
Fred Shapiro
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Not in OED. Therefore interesting.
Traditionally, you "recruit" someone only when they join you. Before
that, they haven't been "recruited."
If you invite or interview them, and they say "No thanks!" they
haven't been "recruited."
JL
JL
JL
On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:
> Why is this interesting? This usage has been around all century.
> On May 15, 2016 7:54 AM, "Jonathan Lighter" <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> CNN reports confidently that Mark Cuban was "recruited" to run as a
>> third-party candidate. He declined.
>>
>> I.e., "solicited or interviewed for a possible position."
>>
>> JL
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