[Ads-l] melodicas and bazookas
Robin Hamilton
robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM
Fri Nov 4 23:58:54 UTC 2016
Defo distinct for me, so I'm hairier than thou.
So for you, all cats are people, as you wouldn't distinguish between a person
and a purr's son?
per/peer/pour/poor/par/pair/purr/pure/pyre/pyrric -- I *think* I hit all ten
bases.
The Real McFerson
>
> On 04 November 2016 at 18:52 Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU> wrote:
>
>
> > On Nov 4, 2016, at 1:22 PM, Robin Hamilton
> > <robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM> wrote:
> >
> > I'd pronounce "fear" as a diphthong too, I think.
> >
> > But interestingly, when I was searching for minimal pairs where I'd
> > pronounce
> > the vowel differently (at least, inside my head -- a tape-recorder might
> > beg to
> > differ, which is one among several reasons why I was always rotten at
> > phonetics), I came up with peer/pier vs. pair/pare, and purse vs. parze,
> > but for
> > the life of me, the best I could manage for a monosyllabic version of
> > "-per" was
> > the quasi-Latin "as per usual".
>
> What about "purr"? For me, "How much per?" (asked elliptically while
> holding up an orange at a fruit stand) and "How much purr?" (asked
> semi-grammatically while holding up a cat at a pet store) are pretty much
> homophonous.
>
>
> >
> > Does English only allow "per" as a bound prefix?
> >
> > Sort of why I thought "Merry Mary married hairy Harry" (a marriage made
> > in hell)
> > might be relevant to the issue.
> >
> > Robin
> >
> >>
> >> On 04 November 2016 at 16:57 Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at GMAIL.COM>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> FWIW, for me, the vowel in “McPherson” is a monophthong, but “fear” is
> >> either disyllabic or the vowel is a diphthong. BB
> >>
> >>> On 4 Nov 2016, at 01:57, Robin Hamilton
> >>> <robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> In my idiolect, it rhymes with "person", not "purse on" or "fearsome".
> >>>
> >>> Are we into Mary's Marriage territory here?
> >>>
> >>> Robin
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I used to say "fur" because I saw a movie with a character named
> >>>> "MacPherson" who was called "manFURson" by the other characters. But
> >>>> it
> >>>> seems to me that, in real life, most people say "macFEERson."
> >>>>
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