[Ads-l] Modern Proverb: Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes the bear eats you

Robin Hamilton robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM
Fri Nov 11 16:06:05 UTC 2016


Specifically Gnostic, one of the texts that turned up at Nag Hammadi in 1945.
 One of the more interesting Gnostic texts, IMHO.

Robin

> 
>     On 11 November 2016 at 15:41 Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Very weird, Apocryphal writer!
> 
>     JL
> 
>     On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu>
> wrote:
> 
>     > Jesus says: "Blessed is the lion which a man eats so that the lion
>     > becomes
>     > a man. But cursed is the man whom a lion eats so that the man becomes a
>     > lion!"
>     >
>     > Gospel of Thomas, 7.
>     >
>     >
>     > Stephen Goranson
>     >
>     > http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/
>     >
>     > ________________________________
>     > From: American Dialect Society <...> on behalf of ADSGarson O'Toole
>     > <...>
>     > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2016 1:44:04 PM
>     > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU
>     > Subject: [ADS-L] Modern Proverb: Sometimes you eat the bear, and
>     > sometimes
>     > the bear eats you
>     >
>     > I was sent a request to examine the saying in the subject line which I
>     > think can be grouped together with some other statements:
>     >
>     > 1) Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes the bear eats you.
>     > 2) Sometimes you hunt the bear, and sometimes the bear hunts you.
>     > 3) Sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you.
>     >
>     > This topic was mentioned on this list in 2004 and 2010. There is an
>     > entry in the DMP and on Barry Popik's website. The QI website now has
>     > an entry with supplementary information:
>     >
>     > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__
>     > quoteinvestigator.com_2016_11_10_bear-2Deats_&d=CwIBaQ&c=
>     > imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-
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>     > 8Dp91GX7WJFmKb3jR_yXE_ALV8_jxxg&s=dwsMqp7NX-Shpzfrsg4-
>     > MMaAgWGJw5sC-Itle0_LYpo&e=
>     >
>     > [Begin acknowledgement]
>     > Great thanks to Sandra Ikuta whose inquiry led QI to formulate this
>     > question and perform this exploration. Thanks to the 2004 mailing list
>     > discussants including: Barry Popik, Wilson Gray, Susan Yerkes, Rima
>     > McKinzey, and Laurence Horn. Thanks to the 2010 mailing list
>     > discussants including: Arnold Zwicky, Laurence Horn, Mark Mandel, and
>     > Charles Doyle. In addition, thanks to Doyle et al for the entry in
>     > "The Dictionary of Modern Proverbs", and thanks to Doyle for verifying
>     > the 1939 citation. Also, gratitude to Barry Popik for his further
>     > valuable research.
>     > [End acknowledgment]
>     >
>     > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.
>     > barrypopik.com_index.php_new-5Fyork-5Fcity_entry_sometimes-
>     > 5Fyou-5Feat-5Fthe-5Fbear-5Fand-5Fsometimes-5Fthe-
>     > 5Fbear-5Feats-5Fyou&d=CwIBaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6Y
>     > HLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=MiHGU5IpvO1-
>     > 8Dp91GX7WJFmKb3jR_yXE_ALV8_jxxg&s=rzRlMgi3ZoaPN0fDtyLLvngi3mHgMg
>     > XeDDHJVhqD86k&e=
>     >
>     > Feedback welcome,
>     > Garson O'Toole
>     >
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