[Ads-l] Fw: Oscar Wilde Quote

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Binstead, Arthur M. (1861–1914)<http://oxfordindex.oup.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780198117605.013.0101>

 (1861–1914) married——. Born in London and educated there in private schools, he was co-editor of the Sporting Annual, and contributed to the Sporting Times a long series of sketches as ‘Pitcher’, collected in such volumes as Pitcher in Paradise (1903). He also founded and edited Town Topics in 1912. Other works include Gal's Gossip (1899), More Gal's Gossip (1901), and Mop Fair: Some Elegant Extracts from the Private Correspondence of Lady Viola Drumcree (1905). His Collected Works were published in two volumes (1927).

>From The Oxford Companion to Edwardian Fiction in Oxford Reference.

For what it's worth, the following may be a 1915 attribution, misspelled apparently, to Binstead (not Brinstead), the "Pitcher":

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/NZFL19150121.2.3?query=work%20is%20the%20curse%20of%20the%20drinking

Stephen

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The quip appeared in the caption of a cartoon in April 1902:

Date: April 08, 1902
Newspaper: Ottumwa Semi-Weekly Courier
Newspaper Location: Ottumwa, Iowa
Cartoon Title: VICE VERSA
Description: One-Panel Cartoon Caption
Quote Page 10
Database: Chronicling America

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[Begin caption]
"I tell you, my friend, drink is the
curse of the working classes."
"And I tells you work is the curse of
the drinkin' classes."
[End caption]

Garson

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 1:26 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole
<> wrote:
> Oscar Wilde died in November 1900. The two citations below appeared
> after Wilde's death, but before the 1916 citation provided by Fred.
>
> Date: January 28, 1905
> Periodical: The Sporting Times
> Periodical Location: London, England
> Article: Sporting Notes
> Quote Page 1, Column 1
> Database:...
> [Begin excerpt]
> Coming out of the "Victoria" they were discussing Admiral
> Rodjestvensky and the Russian people.
>
> "It's just this in Russia," said an Irish barrister from Calcutta,
> "it's just this way. In Russia work is the curse of the drinking
> classes!"
> [End excerpt]
>
>
> Date: July 22, 1906
> Newspaper: The Philadelphia Inquirer
> Newspaper Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
> A Fin. Ricki's Chat About: Clubs and Clubmen
> Quote Page 8, Column 5
> Database: newspapers.com
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> Four well-known young clubmen, two of whom were married, and all
> hailing from Washington, came to Atlantic City on a bit of a tear the
> other day, and at a prominent cafe one evening one of them repeated
> the following toast, apropos of their cases:
>
> "Too much toil with no vacation,
> Justifies a slight libation;
> So here's a toast, now drain your glasses,
> Work in the curse of the drinking classes."
> [End excerpt]
>
> Note: The original text contains a misprint "Work in the curse"
> appears instead of "Work is the curse".
>
> Garson
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Stephen Goranson <...> wrote:
>> ?
>>
>> Saturday Evening Post April 15, 1911 p80 c3.
>>
>> quoted by James H. Collins?
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Stephen Goranson
>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 11:04 AM
>> To: American Dialect Society
>> Subject: Re: Oscar Wilde Quote
>>
>>
>> 1911 p.59
>>
>> Cutting it out; how to get on the waterwagon and stay there, Samuel G. Blythe.
>> Main Author: Blythe, Samuel G. 1868-1947.<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__catalog.hathitrust.org_Search_Home-3Flookfor-3D-2522Blythe-2C-2520Samuel-2520G.-25201868-2D1947.-2522-26type-3Dauthor-26inst-3D&d=CwIFaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=LpLKV7u8yvCY3aQoVxtAhQg_ORhDT9uHxOw1vG173ko&s=DSFtqKxRUB4vdEvqKZvarOHEoU_U2brHaPCanOPNzn8&e= > Language(s): English Published: Chicago, Forbes & company, 1913.
>> Subjects: Alcoholism.<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__catalog.hathitrust.org_Search_Home-3Flookfor-3D-2522-2520Alcoholism.-2522-26type-3Dsubject-26inst-3D&d=CwIFaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=uUVa-8oDL2EzfbuMuowoUadHHcJ7pjul6iFkS5Pd--8&m=LpLKV7u8yvCY3aQoVxtAhQg_ORhDT9uHxOw1vG173ko&s=als-xWAwkrqYteTYT6WhyKzKqugNPdKiqQLlufHtO8s&e= >
>> Note: "This work originally appeared in the Saturday evening post under the title 'on the waterwagon'."
>> Physical Description: 3 p. l., 9-60 p. 17 1/2cm.
>>
>>
>> Stephen Goranson
>>
>> http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/
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>> ________________________________
>> From: American Dialect Society <...> on behalf of Shapiro, Fred <...>
>> Sent: Friday, November 25, 2016 10:59 AM
>> To: ...
>> Subject: [ADS-L] Oscar Wilde Quote
>>
>> In the Yale Book of Quotations I source the quote "Work is the curse of the drinking classes" to Oscar Wilde, Quoted in Frank Harris, Oscar Wilde: His Life and Confessions (1916).  I now believe, however, that there are earlier occurrences not attributed to Wilde.  I would welcome help in finding the earliest occurrence in newspaper databases, book databases, etc.
>>
>>
>> Fred Shapiro
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