[Ads-l] Where are the PC police?
Robin Hamilton
robin.hamilton3 at VIRGINMEDIA.COM
Sun Sep 18 00:29:15 UTC 2016
It's odd ... Not so much that "Chicken Licken Was Right" doesn't sound right,
but *why* it doesn't sound right.
Chicken Licken is embedded in the rhyme-cascade of Chicken Licken, Henny Penny,
Ducky Lucky, Goosy Loosey ... Foxy Loxy, whereas Chicken Little [sic] is
detachable.
As to why Chicken Licken in England whereas Chicken Little in America. *That* I
dunno. The when but not the why.
Way it goes.
Robin
>
> On 18 September 2016 at 00:34 Jim Parish <jparish at SIUE.EDU> wrote:
>
>
> The Turtles released a song by that title in 1967. (It's not one of
> their better songs....)
>
> Jim Parish
>
> On 9/17/2016 6:32 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > In the year 1968 I purchased, in NYC, a novelty button that read,
> > "CHICKEN
> > LITTLE WAS RIGHT."
> >
> > It has served me well ever since.
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Robin Hamilton <
> > robin.hamilton3 at virginmedia.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's worse than that, even, Wilson, since there's a degree of
> >> gender-bending
> >> involved in making the protagonist male:
> >>
> >> I quote myself from some long-ago notes:
> >>
> >> << The second version of the narrative to be written down [the earliest
> >> version is Scots, and begins with a hen], with the initial figure now a
> >> younger
> >> barnyard fowl named Chicken Licken, was that of James Orchard
> >> Halliwell-Philips
> >> (as he was finally known by the end of his life), Shakespearean
> >> scholar,
> >> and
> >> anthologist of nursery rhymes and folk tales. Halliwell-Philips
> >> introduces
> >> Chicken Licken in his 1849 anthology. It is here for the first time
> >> that
> >> the
> >> protagonist is named Chicken Licken, while it is now an acorn [not a
> >> pea,
> >> as in
> >> the earlier Scottish version] which falls on the creature’s head:
> >>
> >> “As Chicken-Licken went one day to the wood, an acorn fell upon her
> >> poor
> >> bald
> >> pate, and she thought the sky had fallen. So she said she would go and
> >> tell the
> >> king that the sky had fallen …”
> >>
> >> This was the version which was to dominate the British strand of the
> >> tale. >>
> >>
> >> Or so I once seem to have averred.
> >>
> >> As to why she's called Chicken Little in America ... well, children,
> >> that's
> >> another story.
> >>
> >> Robin Hamilton
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 17 September 2016 at 20:44 Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Chicken Little (2005) - IMDb
> >>> www.imdb.com/title/tt0371606/
> >>> IMDb
> >>> Rating: 5.8/10 - 64,469 votes
> >>> Animation · After ruining _his_ reputation with the town, a
> >> courageous
> >>> _chicken_ must come to the rescue of _his_ fellow citizens when
> >> aliens
> >>> start an invasion.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> When did chickens - not to mention honeybees, wasps, hornets, cows,
> >> etc. -
> >>> become *male*? No less a light than Seth MacFarlane has even
> >> portrayed
> >>> bulls as having udders.
> >>>
> >>> Is it becoming the case that, in English, _male_ v. _female_ is
> >> relevant
> >>> only WRT personkind?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> -Wilson
> >>> -----
> >>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint
> >> to
> >>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> >>> -Mark Twain
> >>>
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