[Ads-l] 192 = 1902

[Laurence Horn]

“Two thousand and one” for me, if we’re doing a survey.

LH

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 8:36 PM, Jim Parish <jparish at SIUE.EDU> wrote:
> 
> I've always pronounced the title "two thousand one".
> 
> Jim Parish
> 
> On 4/19/2017 7:31 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
>> And wasn't the movie title "2001" usu. pronounced as "two thousand and one"?
>> 
>> JL
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:30 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Sounds perfectly normal to me.  I'd say either "Two thousand two" or "two
>>> thousand and two."
>>> 
>>> "Twenty oh two" is possible, but I wouldn't say it.
>>> 
>>> JL
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thank you! I had no idea how to search for that in the archives! BB
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Apr 2017, at 11:05, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This has come here in the past, as in this 2010 thread:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2010-Januar
>>>> y/095487.html
>>>>> As I said there, the "nineteen two" formulation seems to have been quite
>>>>> common -- perhaps the most common way to say the name of the year at the
>>>>> time. I found evidence for it from class cheers and other sources when I
>>>>> looked into the matter in aught one:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usage.english/msg/e8a4080f14289670
>>>>> 
>>>>> Based on our previous discussion, I think either "nineteen two" or
>>>>> "nineteen and two" would've been more common at the time than "nineteen
>>>> oh
>>>>> two" (or "nineteen aught two" for that matter).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 4:44 PM, Barretts Mail <mail.barretts at gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> As recreated in the film “Jackie,” Jackie Kennedy pronounced the year
>>>>>> “1902” as “19 2” in her 1961 tour of the White House. The original is
>>>> at
>>>>>> about 6:30 into the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?
>>>> v=CbFt4h3Dkkw <
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbFt4h3Dkkw>.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I pronounce this as “19 OH 2” and her pronunciation seems odd to me,
>>>>>> though perhaps it’s a regional or chronolectal thing.
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